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PJ
06-12-2009, 07:25 PM
The way it says, I am not sure.

http://news.gooya.eu/politics/archives/2009/06/089011.php

Motori
06-12-2009, 08:42 PM
It is just a tong in the cheek wishful report. I believe the results will not be published until Saturday 11 AM local time.

PJ
06-12-2009, 08:44 PM
Well, contrary to that report, IRNA is reporting now that AN won.

DireStraits
06-12-2009, 08:47 PM
Soon or later they will announce Mosavi as the winner. It is not possible that AN wins
except they cheat. I however would have prefered Karobi.
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Bi-Honar
06-12-2009, 08:55 PM
Pedram jaan, you have a link to that IRNA report. Very diturbing development indeed (or maybe a blessing in disguise) ;)

Bi-Honar
06-12-2009, 08:57 PM
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PJ
06-12-2009, 08:57 PM
Just go to www.irna.com.
Harkasi yek chiz mige. Ajab shir too shirie!!

Bi-Honar
06-12-2009, 09:01 PM
ISNA's putting AN at 69% of the vote, Mousavi at 28.4%, Rezaei at 1.6% and Karoubi at 0.9%!!! Based on 19.42% of the votes counted so far. What a crock of shit!
http://www.isna.ir/ISNA/NewsView.aspx?ID=News-1355319&Lang=P

Toofan
06-12-2009, 09:05 PM
CNN just said in a breaking news:

interior ministry says Ahmadinejad got 69% of the votes!

PJ
06-12-2009, 09:08 PM
According to that only 5 mil votes have been counted. There are reports that more than 40 mil have voted. So, there is no way they can conclude who won.

Bi-Honar
06-12-2009, 09:11 PM
Press TV confirms ISNA version.

Bi-Honar
06-12-2009, 09:12 PM
Yeah, you're right Pedram jaan. IRNA's full of shit! Since the results are known ahead of time ;) they just leaked the news a little too early. Ooops!

Motori
06-12-2009, 09:12 PM
Iran rivals both declare victory

The two main candidates in Iran's presidential election have claimed victory, after extended voting as huge numbers of people turned out to vote.

Reformist challenger Mir Hossein Mousavi told a news conference that he had won by a substantial margin.

However, state media said incumbent President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad had won, and electoral officials said partial results put him ahead on 69%.

But Mr Mousavi has complained of some voting irregularities.

He said there had been a shortage of ballot papers and millions of people had been denied the right to vote.

His election monitors were not allowed enough access to polling stations, he added, saying he would deal seriously with any fraud.

The BBC's Jon Leyne in Tehran says that, with the count barely having begun, this could be a case of the two candidates just sending a warning.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8098305.stm

Bi-Honar
06-12-2009, 09:14 PM
I think this calls for a pitcher of beer to go with that popcorn Rasoul jaan. :)

Bi-Honar
06-12-2009, 09:16 PM
I bet you anything they're releasing these partial results in a calculated way to gauge people's reactions.

Toofan
06-12-2009, 09:16 PM
ya... offcial Islamic state result is 69% Ahmadinejad...

if its true.. then its a definite cheating & i hope people come to the streets & bring down these mullahs!

PJ
06-12-2009, 09:22 PM
Behrou jan, heyf ke smokey joes doesn't have internet connection or TV coverage from Iran, otherwise we could go there and have another tower.

PJ
06-12-2009, 09:24 PM
It just says early results. They can't just count 5 mil votes. This is not over by any stretch of imagination.

Bi-Honar
06-12-2009, 09:30 PM
Why, you're not in town, are you?

Bi-Honar
06-12-2009, 09:30 PM
Toofan jaan, the motherf***s are waiting for them
تجمع بدون مجوز هواداران نامزدها در کل کشور غیر قانونی است
جانشین فرمانده نیروی انتظامی کشور گفت: تجمع هوداران کاندیداهای ریاست جمهوری در سراسر کشور غیر قانونی است.
به گزارش خبرنگار مهر مستقر در ستاد انتخابات کشور، سردار رادان جمعه شب پس از بازدید از ستاد انتخابات کشور در جمع خبرنگاران اظهار داشت: تجمع هواداران نامزدهای ریاست جمهوری در تمام اماکن بدون مجوز غیر قانونی است.

وی با تاکید بر اینکه اگر این افراد بتوانند مجوزهای لازم را کسب کنند نیروی انتظامی موظف به تامین امنیت آنان است گفت: هنوز در این خصوص هیچ دستوری به این نیرو داده نشده است.

Bi-Honar
06-12-2009, 09:35 PM
بر خلاف تاکید وزیر کشور ،
پایان انتخابات در مازندران برخلاف اطلاعیه ستاد انتخابات کشور اعلام شد
ساری - خبرگزاری مهر: در حالیکه علاوه بر وزیر محترم کشور اطلاعیه ستاد انتخابات کشور بر رای گیری تا زمان اعلام رسمی پایان مهلت رای گیری از صدا و سیما تاکید کرده ، رئیس ستاد انتخابات استان مازندران از پایان انتخابات دهمین دوره ریاست جمهوری در استان مازندران خبر داد.
به گزارش خبرنگار مهر، جواد قناعت شامگاه جمعه در ستاد انتخابات استان مازندران در جمع خبرنگاران اظهار داشت: با توجه به عدم درخواست شهرستان های 17 گانه مازندران تمدید انتخابات غیر ممکن است.

معاون سیاسی امنیتی استاندار مازندران تصریح کرد: البته شعب اخذ رای باید رای افرادی که تا ساعت 21 در حوزه های اخذ رای حضور یافتند، دریافت کنند.

به گفته وی، انتخابات تا کنون به علت درخواست فرمانداریها سه بار تمدید شده است.

وی در خصوص اعلام نتایج انتخابات نیز گفت: نتایج انتخابات به صورت متمرکز از سوی وزارت کشور اعلام خواهد شد.

قناعت خاطرنشان کرد: پس از اتمام رای گیری شمارش آرا آغاز خواهد شد

PJ
06-12-2009, 09:35 PM
Why, you're not in town, are you?

Na, but it is only 9 hours away. ;)

Bi-Honar
06-12-2009, 09:37 PM
LOL. 2 hours by plane ;)

کدخدایی در گفتگو با مهر:
زمان انتخابات در صورت نیاز تا ساعت 24 تمدید شود/ تعرفه ارسال شد
سخنگوی شورای نگهبان گفت: به تمامی شهرها و حوزه های اخذ رای که پیش بینی می شد نیاز به تعرفه رای وجود دارد به تعداد کافی تعرفه ارسال شد.
عباسعلی کدخدایی در گفتگو با خبرنگار مهر اظهار داشت: استقبال مردم غیرقابل پیش بینی بوده است به همین دلیل اگر جایی درب به روی مردم بسته شده به دلیل عدم وجود تعرفه بوده است.

وی درخصوص تمدید زمان انتخابات نیز تاکید کرد: تمدید زمان انتخابات تا این لحظه از طریق وزارت کشور انجام شده ولی اگر نیاز باشد وزارت کشور باید زمان اخذ رای را تا ساعت 24 تمدید کند.

What a freakin' mess. They're on the one end announcing the results and on the other end sending orders to keep polls open!

PJ
06-12-2009, 09:39 PM
By the way, I met Hamid in the Masjed today. :NoTooth:

Bi-Honar
06-12-2009, 09:42 PM
Is he as fun and funny in person as he is online? I can't wait to meet him too :)

كامران دانشجو، رييس ستاد انتخابات كشور، گفت: تا ساعت ‌٢٠ دقيقه بامداد امروز(‌٢٣ خرداد) تعداد صندوق‌هاي شمارش شده، ‌١٦ هزار و ‌١١٢ صندوق معادل ‌٢٢/٣٥ درصد از كل صندوق‌ها بوده است.

به گزارش خبرنگار خبرگزاري دانشجويان ايران (ايسنا)، رييس ستاد انتخابات كشور گفت: تعداد كل آراي شمارش شده ‌١٠ ميليون و ‌٢٣٤ هزار و ‌٤٣١ راي بوده است كه از اين تعداد محمود احمدي‌نژاد با ‌٧ ميليون و ‌٢٧ هزار و ‌٩١٩ راي معادل ‌٨/٦٨ درصد، محسن رضايي ميرقاعد ‌١٦٢ هزار و ‌٩٠٩ راي معادل ‌٧٢/١ درصد، مهدي كروبي ‌٨٨ هزار و ‌٤٧٤ راي معادل ‌٨٦/٠ درصد و ميرحسين موسوي خامنه دو ميليون و ‌٩٥٥ هزار و ‌١٣١ راي معادل ‌٨٧/٢٨ درصد كسب كردند.

Looks like it's going to be a bloody uprising afterall. 2012 IR=history.

Shahin
06-12-2009, 09:50 PM
To the guys who have votted :

Stop the talks about cheating and ..... It makes you look like soar loser kids in the play ground !!!!

When you votted, you have declared that you belive you are getting a fair , democratic election. If you did not belive this and you still votted, excuse my french, then you are an idiot !!!!

If you votted, you should respect the outcome and support the majority, democratically president that was choosen.

This is how it is done in all democratic country and by votting, you told the world that this is what IR is offering you as well.

Now, lets hope the lesser of the two evils has won this.

DireStraits
06-12-2009, 09:54 PM
I predicted this. They announce AN as the winner even there are evidents that mosavi
has won. Now how does people take this. Are they going to go to work as usual?
How about Rezaei? He is a top member of sepah. Is he just going to accepet this?
Rafsanjani?
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Shahin
06-12-2009, 09:59 PM
I predicted this. They announce AN as the winner even there are evidents that mosavi
has won. Now how does people take this. Are they going to go to work as usual?
How about Rezaei? He is a top member of sepah. Is he just going to accepet this?
Rafsanjani?

yes, they are all going to accept any result out of this election and if they do not, there willl be some sort of fatwa that will make them so :)

Shahin
06-12-2009, 10:00 PM
I agree. I think they may have counted the votes in small towns and ....
Do we have electoral votes in Iran as well like we have in US ??

PJ
06-12-2009, 10:02 PM
To the guys who have votted :

Stop the talks about cheating and ..... It makes you look like soar loser kids in the play ground !!!!

When you votted, you have declared that you belive you are getting a fair , democratic election. If you did not belive this and you still votted, excuse my french, then you are an idiot !!!!

If you votted, you should respect the outcome and support the majority, democratically president that was choosen.

This is how it is done in all democratic country and by votting, you told the world that this is what IR is offering you as well.

Now, lets hope the lesser of the two evils has won this.

Shahin jan, the I remember in 2000 and 2004 they were counting votes for months in the US. Even here there were cheatings. But that doesn't mean we should not vote, and if there were cheatings there should not be investigation and corrections.

PJ
06-12-2009, 10:02 PM
No, it is just the vote of majority. 50% +1 vote wins.

DireStraits
06-12-2009, 10:03 PM
Shahin I am not sure. What about US? If they want to get ride of AN this is the prefect time to guid people to do it.
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Toofan
06-12-2009, 10:07 PM
38% counted!

GOD DAMN IT.. I HOPE PEOPLE COME INTO STREETS!

Bi-Honar
06-12-2009, 10:07 PM
When you votted, you have declared that you belive you are getting a fair , democratic election.

I didn't vote, but was that an actual declaration on the voting ballot?

Toofan
06-12-2009, 10:10 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/includes/modules/iranian_election/1_armadinejad.jpg محمود احمدی نژاد
7,027,919


http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/includes/modules/iranian_election/2_rezaei.jpg محسن رضایی
162,909


http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/includes/modules/iranian_election/3_karoubi.jpg مهدی کروبی
88,474


http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/includes/modules/iranian_election/4_mousavi.jpg میرحسین موسوی
2,955,131

Toofan
06-12-2009, 10:13 PM
great! lol! I bet ppl who voted are really pissed off at the moment!

Bi-Honar
06-12-2009, 10:17 PM
The mess already leaking out on Youtube

YouTube - gaaze ashk avar / iran's election day

Shahin
06-12-2009, 10:18 PM
Shahin jan, the I remember in 2000 and 2004 they were counting votes for months in the US. Even here there were cheatings. But that doesn't mean we should not vote, and if there were cheatings there should not be investigation and corrections.
PJ Aziz, There are cheatings , ture, but not in the level in IRAN !!!

I did not vote because there was not a candidate who shares my values and what I belif Iran should be and should become.

Also, because I strongly belive that IR election are not fair and the level of cheatings and ... is too hight and there is no real way of controling it or objecting it.


In US or ... There are rules, means and .... to object the results and ... I belive ( I could be wrong) that those options are not available to us in IRAN.

Shahin
06-12-2009, 10:20 PM
I didn't vote, but was that an actual declaration on the voting ballot?


It is a hidden message :) If I think I am not going to get a fair election, If I think my votes will not count as there will be massive cheatings and ....

Then why bother !!!

I vote, if I think it matters , if I think the government is giving me a way to raise my voice and make it count.

Bi-Honar
06-12-2009, 10:29 PM
Well, the reason Shahin jaan, is that if 10 million people showed up for this vote than the last one and they fake the election results (the majority of whom would have voted for Mousavi/Karoubi/Rezaei) and considering than AN would have lost some voters from last time, it's going to be very difficult to get away with cheating. If 2 million people vote, it's easy to mipulate the results and no one will ever know. When 40 million vote, it's going to be tough to say AN got 30 million votes (which is what it looks like). That means everyone who voted reform last time voted for AN and everyone who voted for AN still voted for AN. They're going to have a hard time making this stick, at least with these numbers out there at the moment.

Bi-Honar
06-12-2009, 10:30 PM
Once people see that no matter what they do, it will not make a difference, they will resort to other means, but that's just the process we have to go through.

Shahin
06-12-2009, 10:31 PM
Well, the reason Shahin jaan, is that if 10 million people showed up for this vote than the last one and they fake the election results (the majority of whom would have voted for Mousavi/Karoubi/Rezaei) and considering than AN would have lost some voters from last time, it's going to be very difficult to get away with cheating. If 2 million people vote, it's easy to mipulate the results and no one will ever know. When 40 million vote, it's going to be tough to say AN got 30 million votes (which is what it looks like). That means everyone who voted reform last time voted for AN and everyone who voted for AN still voted for AN. They're going to have a hard time making this stick, at least with these numbers out there at the moment.

and it seems like they still managed to do it !!!

I honestly do not see a difference, if the top wants a person, they will get him.

Again, hopefully, I will be proven wrong and Mussavi will win it

PJ
06-12-2009, 10:32 PM
PJ Aziz, There are cheatings , ture, but not in the level in IRAN !!!

I did not vote because there was not a candidate who shares my values and what I belif Iran should be and should become.

Also, because I strongly belive that IR election are not fair and the level of cheatings and ... is too hight and there is no real way of controling it or objecting it.


In US or ... There are rules, means and .... to object the results and ... I belive ( I could be wrong) that those options are not available to us in IRAN.

Shahin jan, there are rules in Iran too just as in the US. But what is true in both cases is that whoever is in power for counting the votes specially for a highly contested position, is likely to cheat. Just as the cheatings here were in Florida where Bush's bro was in charge. And people know that in Iran too.
One way to face this issue is to say I know my vote is not going to count and sit out, or you can stand up and try to force them to take you seriously. It seems people of Iran are doing the latter. This is one way of gaining confidence and fighting the regime.

Bi-Honar
06-12-2009, 10:32 PM
Yeah, you and I know that, but it's important that the millions know that. Agreed?

Bi-Honar
06-12-2009, 10:34 PM
Check out the turnout in Paris!

YouTube - Iranian massive election in Paris!

Bi-Honar
06-12-2009, 10:36 PM
Again, hopefully, I will be proven wrong and Mussavi will win it

Either way is a Win-win situation Shahin jaan, this time around. That's why the cote and the turnout was important. People will not take AN's election bent down with 70% of the votes when the polls were showing Mousavi ahead at 70%. Nor will Mousavi, Karoubi, Rafsanjani, Khatami, Rezaei and a whole lot of other people. And AN is a cocky son of a bitch. He's going to feel even more powerful and arrogant now.

PJ
06-12-2009, 10:37 PM
This is percentage of sandoogh ra'y. Not percentage of votes. Stay tuned for votes that come out of big cities. I think it is way too early to give up.

Toofan
06-12-2009, 10:38 PM
I garauntee, if they declare AN winner, people will make the streets ANS grave!
Even Mosavi said if he isnt declared winner then its definite cheating.

Bi-Honar
06-12-2009, 10:40 PM
Rasoul jaan kojayee? You have any more updates for us?

Shahin
06-12-2009, 10:46 PM
I garauntee, if they declare AN winner, people will make the streets ANS grave!
Even Mosavi said if he isnt declared winner then its definite cheating.

I am willing to bet if AN is choosen, People will go to work tomorrow like nothing happened :) :)

There will be peace between the top guys and life will go on.

Bi-Honar
06-12-2009, 10:46 PM
با شمارش‌٢١هزار و‌٦٣١ صندوق
آخرين نـتـايـج شمارش آرا اعـلام شـد
*احمدي‌نژاد ‌٧/٦٧ درصد
*ميرحسين موسوي ‌٣٤/٣٠ درصد سرويس: سياسي

خبرگزاري دانشجويان ايران - تهران


رييس ستاد انتخابات كشور تعداد كل آراي شمارش شده از ‌٢١هزار و ‌٦٣١ صندوق تا ساعت ‌١:42 دقيقه بامداد را اعلام كرد.

به گزارش ايسنا، كامران دانشجو گفت: از ‌١٥ ميليون و ‌٢٥١ هزار و ‌٧٨١ راي براساس حروف الفبا محمود احمدي‌نژاد ‌١٠ ميليون و ‌٢٣٠ هزار و ‌٤٧٨ راي معادل ‌٧/٦٧ درصد، محسن رضايي ميرقايد ‌٢٥٩ هزار و ‌٤٥٦ راي معادل ‌٧/١ درصد، مهدي كروبي ‌١٣٢ هزار و ‌٩٣٥ راي معادل ‌٨٧/٠ درصد و ميرحسين موسوي خامنه چهار ميليون و ‌٦٢٨ هزار و ‌٩١٢ راي معادل ‌٣٤/٣٠ درصد آراء را كسب كرده‌اند.

Toofan
06-12-2009, 10:49 PM
I am willing to bet if AN is choosen, People will go to work tomorrow like nothing happened :) :)

There will be peace between the top guys and life will go on.

Not this time. The turnout was like 2 khordad. 80%. + u have top politician like rafsenjani and karoubi envolved.
I dont think it will be easy for sepah to silence ppl this time.

Bi-Honar
06-12-2009, 10:56 PM
BBC saying most of the votes counted so far are from rural areas (AN's stronghold).

Toofan
06-12-2009, 10:59 PM
according to reuters there are clashes in fatemi square in Tehran between police & Mousavi supporters..

Im tellig you, if AN wins, it'll get ugly!

Bi-Honar
06-12-2009, 11:00 PM
Good job Toofi joon, keep the updates coming. I'm keeping an eye on BBC and ISNA. You track Reuters. Anyone on AP?

Toofan
06-12-2009, 11:01 PM
Karroubi spokesman is talking with BBC right now..

He's clearly saying that this has been a fixed election & cheating..

Toofan
06-12-2009, 11:04 PM
wow...he said the cote counts has been fixed & that the way police & vezarate keshvar are dealing with the situation clearly shows that this election is rigged to help certain individuals..

Shahin
06-12-2009, 11:09 PM
LOL, at Karoubi :)

Where was his individual representitive when they cheated on the pervious elections ???


Where was Mr.Karoubi when AN was giving his false and made up numbers to Iranain ??

Did he find out about all the corruptions just 3 weeks before election ;)

Shame on you Karoubi for being a Forsat Talab.

Shame on for talking about humen rights when you did not even raise your voice once for political, religous prisoners in Evin during thr last 4 years !!!!


Shame on you for citisizing AN and his government when you choosed to have ablind eye on the tortures in Evin and when Kazmi died under the tortures.

Bi-Honar
06-12-2009, 11:14 PM
Holy shit, that's some serious stuff :)

Toofan
06-12-2009, 11:15 PM
even if karoubi is all that stuff (which I totally agree btw :) ), still, if this voting has been fixed, then the more support to reformists, the better.

Bi-Honar
06-12-2009, 11:16 PM
Shahin jaan, "Better late than never, as Noah remarked to the Zebra who had understood that passengers arrived in alphabetical order" ;)
Joking aside, you can't say shit at this level and be joon jooni with the AN gang come tomorrow. There is a serious rift that has formed and is getting more serious. This is as good as it can get for us at this point in time.

PJ
06-12-2009, 11:18 PM
It looks like that big cities are going to change the balance.
http://news.gooya.eu/politics/archives/2009/06/089041.php

Bi-Honar
06-12-2009, 11:19 PM
I wouldn't put much value in Gooya after that initial report Pedram jaan ;)

PJ
06-12-2009, 11:20 PM
Gooya reports that Khameneie has said if AN loses it is going to be a loss for me!!!

PJ
06-12-2009, 11:20 PM
Behrou jan, Gooya just reports from other websites.

Toofan
06-12-2009, 11:20 PM
It looks like that big cities are going to change the balance.
http://news.gooya.eu/politics/archives/2009/06/089041.php

baba.... does anything reallt matter when Offical News Agency of Islamiq republic says That AN won the election 2 hours after polls close? :help:

Bi-Honar
06-12-2009, 11:21 PM
Khameneio reedam be reeshesh :)

Bi-Honar
06-12-2009, 11:21 PM
Yeah, I'm trying to open the ILNA site, but no success so far.

Bi-Honar
06-12-2009, 11:23 PM
baba.... does anything reallt matter when Offical News Agency of Islamiq republic says That AN won the election 2 hours after polls close? :help:

LOL. That one's definitely going to go down as one of the biggest fuck-ups in IR's history. If anyone had any doubt about this being fixed, they should no more after that major screw-up

Toofan
06-12-2009, 11:24 PM
Mohsen rezai spokeman is on BBc now...

Toofan
06-12-2009, 11:27 PM
WOW....

EVEN MOHSEN REZAEI SPOKEMAN SAYS THAT THE NUMBERS ARE STRANGE! He's saying that its odd that they dont say which ballot places & where votes are coming from.

lol!!! who would belive even conservatives are not happy with AN wiining..!!! he says that people should keep calm & go trough legal procedures...

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06-12-2009, 11:27 PM
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Bi-Honar
06-12-2009, 11:28 PM
DS jaan source?

Toofan
06-12-2009, 11:29 PM
IRINN TV: IRIB news channel, just removed the live vote stats update from their screen! hehe

didan gandesh dareh dar miad... My guess is they wont publish more votes tonight..untill people go to sleep :)

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06-12-2009, 11:30 PM
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06-12-2009, 11:30 PM
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Toofan
06-12-2009, 11:35 PM
its getting serious now:

head of setade entekhabat keshvar is being interviewed LIVe on IRINN...

PJ
06-12-2009, 11:35 PM
Gooya ham dare as abe gelalood mahi migire.
Per BBC Khamenei denied those messages.

Bi-Honar
06-12-2009, 11:35 PM
Which BBC are you guys watching? There's a show on Pakistan now?

PJ
06-12-2009, 11:37 PM
I am reading BBC website in Farsi.
Apparently there is Hokoomate nezami.

Toofan
06-12-2009, 11:37 PM
I watch BBC persian.

IRIB just intervied head of election thingy in iran. he said they will public new statistics in 1 hour! lol!!!... he wont publish updated stats like they did up til now..

he said all votes will be counted in around 7-8am Iran time.

Toofan
06-12-2009, 11:38 PM
Guys..if u have sattelite..watch BBC persian..they have nonstop program about election in Iran. great stuff.

PJ
06-12-2009, 11:38 PM
I don't know what monovre eghtedar means. I assume it is some kind of hokoomate nezami.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/persian/iran/2009/06/090612_op_ir88_tehran_police.shtml

PJ
06-12-2009, 11:41 PM
They updated the vote count:
21 mil total
14 mil AN
6min Mousavi

Bi-Honar
06-12-2009, 11:41 PM
Monovore Eghtedar means someone's sugar coating Hookomate Nezami ;)
Thanks for info guys. :)

Bi-Honar
06-12-2009, 11:43 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/persian/tv/2009/01/000000_ptv_live_s.shtml

DireStraits
06-12-2009, 11:44 PM
Gooya ham dare as abe gelalood mahi migire.
Per BBC Khamenei denied those messages.

Even they are lie you know Khamenei wants AN to win.
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Bi-Honar
06-12-2009, 11:45 PM
Well wanting is one thing DS jaan, saying it is another. I highyl doubt Khamenei's that stupid to have said that.

PJ
06-12-2009, 11:46 PM
My friend who is in Iran and he says they are filling up streets with nirrohaye nezami.

Bi-Honar
06-12-2009, 11:48 PM
Wow, I don't think any of us expected it to come to this, this fast, did we?

Toofan
06-12-2009, 11:49 PM
I did. they underestimated the people. even IR & dumb mullahs should know better to rigg votes like this!

PJ
06-12-2009, 11:50 PM
What is hokoomat nezami in english? I forgot.

Bi-Honar
06-12-2009, 11:51 PM
Curfew

Bi-Honar
06-12-2009, 11:52 PM
I'm a little confused here. Wasn;t the election guy on TV a few minutes ago saying no more vote counts will be released for anohter hour? How come the same TV channel is updating their vote count?

PJ
06-12-2009, 11:53 PM
I think they are confused too. There are clearly opposing forces in this thing. So, nobody is following commands, I guess.

Toofan
06-12-2009, 11:56 PM
I'm a little confused here. Wasn;t the election guy on TV a few minutes ago saying no more vote counts will be released for anohter hour? How come the same TV channel is updating their vote count?

Maybe he ment big cities?

Bi-Honar
06-12-2009, 11:57 PM
I don't know what the hell's going on.

Bi-Honar
06-12-2009, 11:57 PM
Hey Pedram jaan, they're showing you guys on BBC :)

Bi-Honar
06-12-2009, 11:58 PM
What the hell are all these reports about them running out of ballots. How pathetic is that?

PJ
06-13-2009, 12:00 AM
Hey Pedram jaan, they're showing you guys on BBC :)

I just tuned in. Mousavi is saying he is going to win.

Toofan
06-13-2009, 12:00 AM
MOUSAVI SPOKESMAN ON BBC NOW..

Bi-Honar
06-13-2009, 12:01 AM
That was from a few hours ago.

DireStraits
06-13-2009, 12:01 AM
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Bi-Honar
06-13-2009, 12:03 AM
Wow. They're already making a big deal about IRNA and AN making that announcement.
Mousavi's guy speaking very determined and with VERY serious allegations. Great, he's mentioning the polls too. :)

Bi-Honar
06-13-2009, 12:05 AM
THIS IS AN ALL OUT COUP!

Toofan
06-13-2009, 12:07 AM
yeah... I dont think people will go to work as suual tomorrow...

its gonna be interesting ..really interesting if AN wins.

Bi-Honar
06-13-2009, 12:09 AM
I don't think they can, even if they wanted to! It looks like an all out military rule (sepah in this case) on the streets for the next few days for sure. The point of no return has been crossed. They're either going to have to arrest Karoubi and Mousavi in an all out war and stand against the people for the next few years, or AN's going to have to step down at this point, even if he has majority vote.

Bi-Honar
06-13-2009, 12:10 AM
As DS said, there's complete black-out on Iranian media, new sites and even telphone and internet sites. This is really serious.

Bi-Honar
06-13-2009, 12:11 AM
Where is our Team Leader. His analysis of the situation is greatly missed.

Toofan
06-13-2009, 12:12 AM
61% VOTES counted.
AN 66,2%,
Mousavi 31,6%

Not good.

Bi-Honar
06-13-2009, 12:14 AM
Very Good actually ;)

Toofan
06-13-2009, 12:17 AM
Very Good actually ;)

yeah ... I donno what AN & his thugs are thinking... but it wont be easy for them to cover this up....

Toofan
06-13-2009, 12:18 AM
http://gdb.rferl.org/76EF4948-EEBF-4FA0-B21B-15FC856DF599_w203_h153_s.jpg (http://www.radiofarda.com/content/F7_Election88/1753217.html)
نتایج قطعی تا ساعت هشت صبح شنبه اعلام می‌شود (http://www.radiofarda.com/content/F7_Election88/1753217.html)

رئیس ستاد انتخابات کشور با اعلام تازه‌ترین نتایج شمارش آرا تا ساعت ۲:۴۷ بامداد که همچنان حاکی از پیشتازی محمود احمدی‌نژاد است، از اعلام نتایج قطعی تا ۸ صبح روز شنبه خبر داد. ادامه (http://www.radiofarda.com/content/F7_Election88/1753217.html)


http://gdb.rferl.org/1B597CC6-48D8-4D71-867E-0C75F110D0C9_w82_h62.jpg (http://www.radiofarda.com/content/f35_Police_in__Tehran_Elections/1753156.html) رادان: تجمع‌ هوادران نامزدها در تهران و کشور غیر قانونی است (http://www.radiofarda.com/content/f35_Police_in__Tehran_Elections/1753156.html) http://www.radiofarda.com/img/assignedIcons/icon-rtlAudio.gif (http://www.radiofarda.com/content/f35_Police_in__Tehran_Elections/1753156.html)

جانشین فرمانده نیروی انتظامی ایران گفت تجمع هوادارن نامزدها در تمام کشور غیر قانونی است، ساعتی پیش از آن معاون عمليات فرماندهی نیروی انتظامی تهران خبر از اجرای مانور اقتدار در پایتخت داده بود. ادامه (http://www.radiofarda.com/content/f35_Police_in__Tehran_Elections/1753156.html)

http://gdb.rferl.org/8C708987-452C-4D62-98AF-B1F6EDB59E18_w82_h62.jpg (http://www.radiofarda.com/content/F8_FILTERING_ELECTIONS_MOUSAVI/1752956.html) ‌شماری از سایت‌های حامی موسوی فیلتر شدند (http://www.radiofarda.com/content/F8_FILTERING_ELECTIONS_MOUSAVI/1752956.html)

سردبیر سایت نوروز، تنها ارگان جبهه مشارکت اعلام کرد که این پایگاه خبری، و شماری دیگر از رسانه‌های اینترنتی حامی میرحسین موسوی در بعد از ظهر روز جمعه فیلتر شده‌اند. ادامه (http://www.radiofarda.com/content/F8_FILTERING_ELECTIONS_MOUSAVI/1752956.html)

Bi-Honar
06-13-2009, 12:23 AM
You can't cover something like this up IMHO. The polls were showing Mousavi ahead by almost 3-1, to say that it turned around to 2-1 in the other direction within a few final hours and after campaigning finished, is something only dumb AN supporters would think is possible.

Toofan
06-13-2009, 12:37 AM
<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td align="right" valign="top"><table align="right" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr id="newsHeader"><td valign="top" width="10">http://www.irna.ir/Images/BlueDots1.gif </td> <td valign="top"> انتخاب دهم/ برخي گروه‌ها با اعتراض به سلامت انتخابات به شعور ملت توهين کردند
</td> </tr> </tbody></table> عضو کميسيون امنيت ملي و سياست خارجي مجلس شوراي اسلامي تاکيد کرد: برخي گروه ها با اعتراض به سلامت انتخابات به شعور و درک مردم توهين کردند.

</td> <td align="left" width="250" height="166"> http://www.irna.ir/NewsMedia/Photo/Smal_Pic/2009%5C6%5C12%5Cimg633804288533281250.jpg (http://www.irna.ir/NewsMedia/Photo/Larg_Pic/2009%5C6%5C12%5Cimg633804288533281250.jpg)
</td> </tr> </tbody></table> "سيد حسين نقوي حسيني" در گفت وگو با خبرنگار سياسي ايرنا اعتراض به سلامت انتخابات را از سوي مدعيان اصلاح طلبي توجيهي از سوي آنان براي شکستشان در انتخابات دانست و تاکيد کرد:امروز همه مردم مي دانند پيروز اصلي و نهايي انتخابات چه کسي است و نيازي نيست که آنان سلامت انتخابات را زير سوال ببرند.
وي تاکيد کرد: زير سوال بردن انتخابات از سوي اصلاح طلبان توجيهي براي آينده آنان است زيرا آنان مي خواهند با پيروز نشدن در انتخابات حرفي براي گفتن داشته باشند.
نماينده مردم ورامين در مجلس شوراي اسلامي تاکيد کرد: امروز تمام دنيا انتخابات ايران را سالم ترين انتخابات مي دانند و تفاوت ويژه اي که انتخابات ايران با سراسر دنيا دارد در نحوه اجراي آن است.
وي گفت: در هيچ جاي دنيا سابقه ندارد نماينده نامزدهاي مختلف در کنار صندوق انتخابات حضور يابند ولي در ايران تمامي نامزدها مي توانند نماينده اي در کنار صندوق راي داشته باشند که با اين وصف چه طور امکان تقلب وجود دارد.
عضو فراکسيون اصولگرايان مجلس شوراي اسلامي تاکيد کرد: بيان اينگونه مساله تنها براي توجيه وضعيت اصلاح طلبان است و کاربرد ديگري ندارد.
وي افزود: بيان پروژه صيانت از آرا تنها جنبه تبليغاتي دارد و اصلاح طلبان مي خواهند به هر نحوي نتيجه انتخابات را نشانه بگيرند.
سيام/9121
source: http://www.irna.ir/View/FullStory/?NewsId=543155

DireStraits
06-13-2009, 12:39 AM
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Toofan
06-13-2009, 12:52 AM
AN supporter on BBC now ... asswipe!

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Kaesra
06-13-2009, 01:22 AM
Hope nobody gets hurt though if it gets really serious, maybe good time to stir something up or atleast show some balls if any. Lets see if this induces some action seeing that people this time actually voted if Im not mistaken, damn AN messed up nobody is gonna trust he actually won without cheating.

Toofan
06-13-2009, 01:44 AM
their counting has slowed down it seems....

probably the cpu is too hot after counting 24 million votes in 4 hours :b

Alejandro Sosa
06-13-2009, 01:56 AM
Unfortunately, they will even get away with this..

I really don't know what to say...maybe Mousavi would have been too much of a threat for Khamenei..

I really don't know...

I personally believe that..well fuck it..

I have never been as hopeless as I've been now. I would really just like to beat anyone up supporting Ahmadinejad...like, I really wished one of ashtar, REZA, or even Simply Ken were in front of me and I could beat the fuck out of them. I'm that serious...

Fuck it...depressing..

All I know now is that there definitely can't be a change from within anymore..
and I really don't want to go to Iran anymore..

I'm disgusted....really...I never had a day in my life I hated to be Iranian...today I hate it..because I'm just watching damn BBC website, seeing the numbers, and feeling helpless...and there's nothing I can do about it...fuck this...

Bi-Honar
06-13-2009, 01:58 AM
Police have clashed with demonstrators in Tehran's Fatemi square

Bi-Honar
06-13-2009, 02:00 AM
Karoubi had over 5 million votes last time running against 5 other candidates! He has only 200,000 votes now?!

Alejandro Sosa
06-13-2009, 02:04 AM
Karoubi had over 5 million votes last time running against 5 other candidates! He has only 200,000 votes now?!

bikhiale in..

Rafsanjani had last year at a lower turnout more votes than Mousavi..

reedam..

Bi-Honar
06-13-2009, 02:29 AM
Reports of major clashes coming in from all corners of Iran. Hokoomate Nezami in Qom, major clashes in Tehran Pars, etc., etc.

Shahin
06-13-2009, 02:54 AM
what is the source Bi-Honar Aziz ??

IranZamin
06-13-2009, 03:05 AM
I have never been as hopeless as I've been now. I would really just like to beat anyone up supporting Ahmadinejad...like, I really wished one of ashtar, REZA, or even Simply Ken were in front of me and I could beat the fuck out of them. I'm that serious...

Believe me, I feel the same way. That's why all of them except Ken are in my ignore list (He's on his way too).

I just can't be civil to scum, and these parasites are not worth getting banned over.

Speaking of Ken, honestly, if I were in his shoes I'd feel indebted to IR too!

This guy was an unemployed 40 year old spending his days arguing with teenagers on Big Soccer, but thanks to IR he now has a decent job and even started a family. By giving him a life, they are - in the most literal sense of the term - his masters, and he is a grateful and loyal servant.

Shahin
06-13-2009, 03:10 AM
Speaking of Ken, honestly, if I were in his shoes I'd feel indebted to IR too!

This guy was an unemployed 40 year old spending his days arguing with teenagers on Big Soccer, but thanks to IR he now has a decent job and even started a family. By giving him a life, they are - in the most literal sense of the term - his masters, and he is a grateful and loyal servant.


I thought he was an attorny in US !!! Although from the way he argued to prove his points and .... I could see that he was not a very good one :)

IranZamin
06-13-2009, 03:28 AM
I thought he was an attorny in US !!! Although from the way he argued to prove his points and .... I could see that he was not a very good one :)
He was an attorney. He was also unemployed.:)

There's a lot I can talk about but I won't. Just know that his entire daily activities consisted of arguing about football on various boards, often with people half his own age. He was asked about his job on a number of occasions, but it was obvious he wasn't working. He came from a well-off background and was living off family money.

There was also a time when a friend or relative staged an intervention and posted on various boards that Ken has agreed to cut down his internet addiction with Ken himself posting to say goodbye, only to return a day later!

Serving IR has been very good to him and literally turned his life around. Although his shilling for the regime makes me nauseous, his gratitude for them is understandable.

IranZamin
06-13-2009, 03:35 AM
On a separate note, I don't know if this has been said yet, but this coup is pretty much the end of all hopes for reforming this regime. This was a short-term victory for them but they will regret it in the long run. Even if they loosen up in the next election, there is no way people will trust them again. The turn-out will be as low as it was back in the late 80's and early 90's.

I'm also done worrying about that country anymore. It's over. From now on, my interest in Iranian politics will be that of a passive observer. This country won't be fixed in my life time, and I have other problems to worry about.

I'm heading out to get drunk and forget about this circus. I've wasted enough time with it. Never again.

Shahin
06-13-2009, 03:38 AM
wow, I had no idea. Albateh Dorost nist poshte Saresh adam harf bezaneh ;)

Kaesra
06-13-2009, 03:53 AM
I would be amased if nobody would stand up and do anything, maybe I dont know our people well enough, I know we normally dont do anything but seriously this isnt just thinking it might be fixed, they are spitting in peoples faces so clearly. I dont know maybe I was being nave, damn .... damn. I hope the mass does stand up but clearly this country is even sicker than I thought, I defend my country all the time but this is getting rediculous.

Shahin
06-13-2009, 04:00 AM
I would be amased if nobody would stand up and do anything, maybe I dont know our people well enough, I know we normally dont do anything but seriously this isnt just thinking it might be fixed, they are spitting in peoples faces so clearly. I dont know maybe I was being nave, damn .... damn. I hope the mass does stand up but clearly this country is even sicker than I thought, I defend my country all the time but this is getting rediculous.

Why would u be amazed ???!!! At Max, we might see a group of university students, not the spiky hair, green ribon shomale Shahr tehroni kid, or mo mesh green lipstick damagh amal kardeh girl.

We might see some of our university students come to street like last time and again, like last get crushed and savagly beaten annd .... by the Sepah, lebaz Shakhsi and ... without our people comming to their help.


And this is not suprising, There are many of these young men who are in Evin right now and some are there for over 8 years now !!!!


Do you hear anyone talking about them ?? Did you see those green ribon, shalvar tang Gigelo rasing their picture when he was making a green line in Tehran ????

Kaesra
06-13-2009, 04:09 AM
I agree but I am just finding it hard to believe, maybe I was just positive and nave and im seeing things that arent there, lack of balls seems to be very clear in our people and its really easy to say for me too sitting behind a laptop too I realise that but still this is really really bad. Chikar konam fekr kardam indafeh it maybe different, I just love my country and accepting the state its in isnt easy for me especially if change doesnt seem to be comming any time soon. Some people put too much fate in the elections knowing what would happen before hand, but I dont like giving up on Iran eventhough its appealing at times. Looking at it with hindsight, I should have known this would be a meaningless election, even if AN wouldnt get realected I doubt something would happen soon, I am more irritated by how obvious the fixing has been done.

PJ
06-13-2009, 04:17 AM
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Shahin
06-13-2009, 05:02 AM
She is right.

If Mussavi is a leader and if he truely thinks he was robbed, he should get a group of people to protect him, ask his supporters to pour in the streets of Iran and he should join them in street in demonstrations.

That is a leader.

Didn't the same thing happened in Ukriane few years back ??

Sly
06-13-2009, 05:03 AM
I can NOT believe it!!! I just can not believe it!!!!!!!!!!!!

What can I say?? When a donkey has got more brain than majority of our people, then Amadinejad will be and should be in power!!!

Khak bar sare in mellat!

Bi-Honar
06-13-2009, 05:43 AM
what is the source Bi-Honar Aziz ??

Shahin jaan, that was from "unverified" e-mail reports sent to BBC Persian. Whatever that means. I doubt the BBC is making this sutff up. But, that's not to say people in Iran aren't sending these e-mails. If that's the case, at least it suggests there's an organized effort to let the world know the people or groups in Iran are ready, if the world wants to listen.

I've been away from the computer for a few hours, and haven't really checked any news (since I posted this) or read the rest of the thread in detail to know what's going on - the few misery drinks I had, have also slowed the process for me, so please bear with me as I read the rest of thread. ;)

PJ
06-13-2009, 06:31 AM
I can NOT believe it!!! I just can not believe it!!!!!!!!!!!!

What can I say?? When a donkey has got more brain than majority of our people, then Amadinejad will be and should be in power!!!

Khak bar sare in mellat!

Ali jan, it is not brain. It is power. When a donkey has so much power and so much veghahat, this is what happens.

Bi-Honar
06-13-2009, 06:42 AM
He was an attorney. He was also unemployed.:)

There's a lot I can talk about but I won't. Just know that his entire daily activities consisted of arguing about football on various boards, often with people half his own age. He was asked about his job on a number of occasions, but it was obvious he wasn't working. He came from a well-off background and was living off family money.

There was also a time when a friend or relative staged an intervention and posted on various boards that Ken has agreed to cut down his internet addiction with Ken himself posting to say goodbye, only to return a day later!

Serving IR has been very good to him and literally turned his life around. Although his shilling for the regime makes me nauseous, his gratitude for them is understandable.

You're amazing bro. I have never figured out how you retain all this information. It really is a talent and you'd have my vote (in a direct democracy ;)) to be the head of intelligence (please notice choice of words) for any country I live in. :)

On a separate note, I don't know if this has been said yet, but this coup is pretty much the end of all hopes for reforming this regime. This was a short-term victory for them but they will regret it in the long run. Even if they loosen up in the next election, there is no way people will trust them again. The turn-out will be as low as it was back in the late 80's and early 90's.

I'm also done worrying about that country anymore. It's over. From now on, my interest in Iranian politics will be that of a passive observer. This country won't be fixed in my life time, and I have other problems to worry about.

I'm heading out to get drunk and forget about this circus. I've wasted enough time with it. Never again.


No bro, it hadn't been said - predicted but not said with certainty after the results came in. It is an excellent point though.

Now that all options have been exhasuted, isn't the only option remaining, however unlikely or undesirable, the solution?!

If all the peaceful means of requesting a change, asking for change, begging for change and taking action for change in a democratic system (ie. voting)have been exuahsted, shouldn't we support the only remaining option... FORCING CHANGE?

The answer is clear to me and I think it should be to most of you. The times of staying on the sideline, "kenaare god neshastan", are over. But "THIS" ISN'T OVER. This is just the beginning. The only part that's over is the fairy tale that we had all built up in our minds - that Iran can change and will change slowly and on its own. Our Iran is a heroin addict; She is the 16 year old that's being hung in public from a crane. Our Iran is the tortured prisoner in Evin. Our Iran is bleeding, sick and weak. This Iran is not going to pull through without us, without our help and without everything that we have to offer.

We've sat in this corner of the world, made our own little Iranian corner, but the blood that's pumping through our veins is gushing out, at the other corner of the world. We are Iranian for God's sake. We got rid of many "selselehs" much bigger than the IR, much stronger than the IR. We didn't give up. So, go ahead and have your few misery drinks, but DON't GIVE UP.

This should have only shown us more reasons to be together, united, determined, pumped and ready to force that change. Are we going to support people in Iran running out and taking out "strategic" non-civilian targets like Basij and Sepah headquarters?! Are we going to change our position to support an armed resistance to the regime (committed to absolute minimum loss of civilian life)? Are we going to run to our elected officials in the West and lobby for this "armed resistance" not to be labelled as a terrorist group? Are we going to force our opposition groups outside Iran to unite? Are we going to provide any means at our disposal, be it finanical or technical expertise to support a co-ordinated resistance to the regime? Or are we going to sit on our asses and whine about how God doesn't exist and if he does, he really did us wrong, so he can't be a good God "anyway"l?

There are tough choices we have to make, but if you answered "yes" to any of the above questions, except the last on, you have alreay taken the most important step - making that tough choice . You and I and many Iranians inside and outside want change. We know it's the majorty and we've asked for it, we've begged for it, we've requested it and now we've voted for it. OUR APPLICATION HAS BEEN DENIED. So I ask all of you this question... You want US to tell our friends REZA and Ashtar that we've given up? You want us to say out loud that we bowed and will bow to opression and tyranny? Or you want us to tell them something more satisfying, that we can do it, and we will do it - it's just a matter of time. Isn't that what we'd like to say? Why don't we just f****g say it then?!

Shahin
06-13-2009, 07:18 AM
http://twitter.com/iranbaan

I came across this link that posts the latest updates.

Sly
06-13-2009, 08:21 AM
Ali jan, it is not brain. It is power. When a donkey has so much power and so much veghahat, this is what happens.

You mean his power and veghahat made people to go and vote for him?

Shahin
06-13-2009, 08:26 AM
You're amazing bro. I have never figured out how you retain all this inform

Now that all options have been exhasuted, isn't the only option remaining, however unlikely or undesirable, the solution?!

If all the peaceful means of requesting a change, asking for change, begging for change and taking action for change in a democratic system (ie. voting)have been exuahsted, shouldn't we support the only remaining option... FORCING CHANGE?

!

I really like the above :) Nicely put.

Behrooz_C
06-13-2009, 08:53 AM
When the supreme leader of Islamic Republic announces that "a defeat for Ahmadinejad is a defeat for me" what do you expect to happen?

I am really surprised at people who thought they could change things by voting. I voted once in this regime and that was for Khatami, the first time. I never voted again and never will because I know my vote means squat.

Alejandro Sosa
06-13-2009, 08:55 AM
Believe me, I feel the same way. That's why all of them except Ken are in my ignore list (He's on his way too).

I just can't be civil to scum, and these parasites are not worth getting banned over.

Speaking of Ken, honestly, if I were in his shoes I'd feel indebted to IR too!

This guy was an unemployed 40 year old spending his days arguing with teenagers on Big Soccer, but thanks to IR he now has a decent job and even started a family. By giving him a life, they are - in the most literal sense of the term - his masters, and he is a grateful and loyal servant.

hehehehe....yeah..this whole thing about love your enemy and all that never made sense to me either.

He was an attorney. He was also unemployed.:)

There's a lot I can talk about but I won't. Just know that his entire daily activities consisted of arguing about football on various boards, often with people half his own age. He was asked about his job on a number of occasions, but it was obvious he wasn't working. He came from a well-off background and was living off family money.

There was also a time when a friend or relative staged an intervention and posted on various boards that Ken has agreed to cut down his internet addiction with Ken himself posting to say goodbye, only to return a day later!

Serving IR has been very good to him and literally turned his life around. Although his shilling for the regime makes me nauseous, his gratitude for them is understandable.

On a separate note, I don't know if this has been said yet, but this coup is pretty much the end of all hopes for reforming this regime. This was a short-term victory for them but they will regret it in the long run. Even if they loosen up in the next election, there is no way people will trust them again. The turn-out will be as low as it was back in the late 80's and early 90's.

I'm also done worrying about that country anymore. It's over. From now on, my interest in Iranian politics will be that of a passive observer. This country won't be fixed in my life time, and I have other problems to worry about.

I'm heading out to get drunk and forget about this circus. I've wasted enough time with it. Never again.

More or less my sentiments. My personal opinion has always been that any type of change or democracy movement needs to be gradual in order to work.
Guess it doesn't work in Iran that well...it's definitely over.

Shahin
06-13-2009, 09:34 AM
ین پیام میرحسین موسوی است که سعید شریعتی در فیس‌بوک گذاشته است:

ملت شريف ايران
نتايجي كه براي دهمين دوره انتخابات رياست جمهوري اعلام شد بهت آور است مردمي كه در صفهاي طولاني اخذ راي شاهد تركيب آرا بودند و خود مي دانند كه به چه كسي راي داده اند با حيرت تمام به شعبده بازي دست اندركاران انتخابات و صدا و سيما نگاه مي كنند. آنان اينك بيش از هميشه به دنبال آن هستند كه بدانند چگونه و توسط چه كساني و مقاماتي طرح اين بازي بزرگ ريخته شده است. اينجانب ضمن اعتراض شديد به روند موجود و تخلفات آشكار و فراوان روز انتخابات هشدار مي دهم كه تسليم اين صحنه آرايي خطرناك نخواهم شد. نتيجه آنچه كه از عملكرد متصديان بي امانت ديده ايم و مي بينيم جز تزلزل اركان نظام مقدس جمهوري اسلامي ايران و حاكميت دروغ و استبداد نيست. اينجانب طبق وظيفه شرعي و ملي خويش به افشاي رازهاي پشت سر اين روند پرمخاطره خواهم پرداخت و آثار نابود كننده آن را بر سرنوشت كشور توضيح خواهم داد و ترس آن دارم كه ادامه وضع موجود همه نيروهاي موثر در نظام را به توجيه گراني دروغگو در مقابل مردم تبديل كند و دنيا و آخرت آنان را در معرض لطمه هاي جبران ناپذير قرار دهد.
به مسوولان توصيه مي كنم بيش از آن كه دير شود اين روند را فورا متوقف كنند و همگي به خط قانون و امانتداري از آراي ملت بازگردند و بدانند كه خروج از عدالت مشروعيت زداست. آنان بيش از هر كس ديگر از اين حقيقت باخبرند كه در اين كشور انقلابي بزرگ و اسلامي صورت گرفته است. كمترين پيام انقلاب ما اين است كه مردم آگاهند و در برابر كساني كه با تقلب روي كار بيايند تمكين نخواهند كرد.
اينجانب از همين فرصت استفاده ميكنم و ضمن تشكر از عواطف ملت بزرگوار ايران به آنان تذكر مي دهم كه ايران اين موجود آسماني متعلق به آنان است و نه متقلبان، اين آنان هستند كه بايد با هوشياري خود از آن حفاظت كنند. خائنين به آراء مردم ابايي از آن ندارند كه اين خانه پارسايان به آتش كشيده شود. ما موج عقلانيت سبز خود را كه برگرفته از تعاليم ديني و علايق ملت ما به اهل بيت پيامبر(ص) است با تمامي شور ادامه مي دهيم و با شورش دروغ كه در كشور طغيان كرده و چهره آن را آلوده است مبارزه ميكنيم، اما اجازه نخواهيم داد كه حركات ما شكل كور به خود بگيرد.
جا دارد از يكايك شهرونداني كه براي رساندن اين پيام سبز هر كدام ستادي بودند و تمامي ستادهاي مردمي و رسمي كه در انتخابات فعاليت ميكردند سپاسگذاري كنم و تاكيد نمايم كه تا رسيدن به نتيجه اي كه كشور ما لايق آن است همچنان به حضور و تلاش آنان نياز است.
و ما لنا الا نتوكل علي الله و قد هدانا سبلنا و لنصبرن علي ما اذيتمونا و ع لي الله فليتو كل المتوكلون

Shahin
06-13-2009, 09:35 AM
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06-13-2009, 09:50 AM
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DireStraits
06-13-2009, 10:02 AM
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PJ
06-13-2009, 01:44 PM
People are on the streets
YouTube - Tehran - Vali Asr - 23 Khordad

PJ
06-13-2009, 01:46 PM
There is huge crowd going from Vanak to Vali-asr in Tehran. This is from shahedan-e eini and vidos on facebook.

DireStraits
06-13-2009, 03:17 PM
Tazahorat ??????? ???? ??? ?? ????? ????? ???????? 23 ?????
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SaGRnSia7Y&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Epeykeiran%2Ecom%2FContent%2Easpx%3FID%3D2097&feature=player_embedded
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Bi-Honar
06-13-2009, 04:19 PM
LMAO @ Simply Kheng. That's a good one bro :)
Vaghan dame mardom garm. This is the Iran and Iranians I like to see. Total fighter mentality.

Behrooz_C
06-13-2009, 05:07 PM
Good site for up to date info:

http://tehranbureau.com/

DireStraits
06-13-2009, 05:08 PM
My relative is saying she can see the riots on BBC.
Do you have a link?
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Bi-Honar
06-13-2009, 05:09 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/emp/pop.html

Alejandro Sosa
06-13-2009, 07:31 PM
Guys..look at this stuff...jezus

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/06/the-results-as-they-came-in.html

http://forums.iransportspress.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=18854&stc=1&d=1244856016

Bi-Honar
06-13-2009, 07:55 PM
Yeah, it was obvious right from the start. The ratio was the same the whole time. Not to mention that first vote count of 5 million came in 45 minutes after the polls closes, the next 5 million 1/2 an hour later and then almot 1 more every hour!

Kaz
06-13-2009, 08:13 PM
I gotta go sleep and wake up for a game tomorrow but I can't keep my eyes off these threads.

PJ
06-13-2009, 08:33 PM
You mean his power and veghahat made people to go and vote for him?
So you think it would have been any better if people didn't vote? True they would not be beaten but the result would have been the same. Oh, no, with one exception, AN could have claimed that he is actually popular in Iran. Now there is no secrets. Everyone knows that they cheated and they are not popular.

Bi-Honar
06-13-2009, 08:35 PM
You did good voting Pedram jaan, don't feel bad about it. Without those votes, this wouldn't be happening right now. This was inevitable.

PJ
06-13-2009, 08:51 PM
You did good voting Pedram jaan, don't feel bad about it. Without those votes, this wouldn't be happening right now. This was inevitable.

I don't have regrets at all Behrou jan. Exactly what you say. The only thing I wish I was there.

Bi-Honar
06-13-2009, 09:19 PM
Me too bro. I would have taken this over a beer tower any time. I feel so bad for my countrymen, women and children being beaten up like that. I would have been in the front lines I tell you.