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Cia
04-14-2009, 03:12 PM
Praying to God is like talking to a friend



12 April 2009 by Andy Coghlan (http://www.newscientist.com/search?rbauthors=Andy+Coghlan)
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<!-- pgtop --> IS PRAYER just another kind of friendly conversation? Yes, says Uffe Schjødt (http://person.au.dk/en/us@teo), who used MRI to scan the brains of 20 devout Christians. "It's like talking to another human. We found no evidence of anything mystical."
Schjødt, of the University of Aarhus, Denmark, and colleagues, asked volunteers to carry out two tasks involving both religious and "secular" activities. In the first task, they silently recited the Lord's Prayer, then a nursery rhyme. Identical brain areas, typically associated with rehearsal and repetition, were activated.
In the second, they improvised personal prayers before making requests to Santa Claus. Improvised prayers triggered patterns that match those seen when people communicate with each other, and activated circuitry that is linked with the theory of mind - an awareness that other individuals have their own independent motivations and intentions (Social Cognitive and Affective Neuroscience, DOI: 10.1093/scan/nsn050 (http://scan.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/nsn050v1)).
Two of the activated regions are thought to process desire and consider how another individual - in this case God - might react. Also activated were part of the prefrontal cortex linked to the consideration of another person's intentions, and an area thought to help access memories of previous encounters with that person.
The prefrontal cortex is key to theory of mind. Crucially, this area was inactive during the Santa Claus task, suggesting volunteers viewed Santa as fictitious but God as a real individual.
Previous studies have found that the prefrontal cortex is not activated when people interact with inanimate objects, such as a computer game. "The brain doesn't activate these areas because they don't expect reciprocity, nor find it necessary to think about the computer's intentions," says Schjødt.
He says the results show people believe they are talking to someone when they pray, an outcome that pleased both atheists and Christians: "Atheists said it shows that it's all an illusion (http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg18925361.200-belief-special-when-delusion-triumphs-over-truth.html)," says Schjødt, while Christians said it was evidence that God is real.

Brain scans reveal that people believe they are talking to someone when they pray



Robin Dunbar at the University of Oxford points out that the study proves neither: "This has nothing to do with whether God exists or not, only with subjects' beliefs about whether God exists."


http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20227033.600-praying-to-god-is-like-talking-to-a-friend.html


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God only know how Christians take this to be evidence that god is real :D

artavile
04-14-2009, 03:52 PM
Very interesting. To be certain one way or another, they should have used a few Moslems in this research/test. Imagine an akhoond as the test subject, and the MRI capturing the brain waves resembling the figure of a kuku.:showass5:

Anyway, its all in our heads.:Beat-Horse:

Bi-Honar
04-14-2009, 04:13 PM
Hamid jaan een khoda ba to che badi kardeh, enghadr baash bad shodi? ;) ZBezanam be takhte, endegie khoob, khanevaadeye khoob, aghle khoob, badane khoob, digeh chi kaar bokoneh yezzareh khoob beshi baash?! ;)

artavile
04-14-2009, 04:48 PM
Hamid jaan een khoda ba to che badi kardeh, enghadr baash bad shodi? ;) ZBezanam be takhte, endegie khoob, khanevaadeye khoob, aghle khoob, badane khoob, digeh chi kaar bokoneh yezzareh khoob beshi baash?! ;)

Behrou jan, Man ke ba khoda kari nadaram, ba adamhie ke az koon khoda noon mekhoran kar daram.:Deviltype:

LOOL at aghle khoob :horse:

Bi-Honar
04-15-2009, 02:31 AM
Yeah, I hear you. I guess we can't expect any better when God's described as a "he" with human characteristics and qualities. Az koonesh khordan becomes a natural progression for that same mentality and those who sell this shit - no punn intended - stand to gain much from it. Sad part of human nature to be such sheep - no offence intended toward our peace loving and useful fury friends of course. ;)

raminio05
04-15-2009, 10:03 AM
Although this is definately interesting, it really doesn't say much one way or the other.

Sherwin
04-15-2009, 11:08 PM
Very interesting. To be certain one way or another, they should have used a few Moslems in this research/test. Imagine an akhoond as the test subject, and the MRI capturing the brain waves resembling the figure of a kuku.:showass5:

Anyway, its all in our heads.:Beat-Horse:

lol good one except the MRI would come out empty because we all know Akhoonds don't have a brain. As Ramino jan pointed out as interesting as the article is, it does not say much one way or the other.