sounds so mooshy having a love forum.

& worst of all its all my posts here & im the least romantic person on earth :D

LOL, you are advocating porn forum but want to get rid of love forum. :)

by the way, I was a little concerned too, you are the only one posting here ;)

^^^Toofan likes it either extreme or nothing at all :)

sounds so mooshy having a love forum.


LOL. Well, stop being so mooshy and put some good heart-break and lost-love stuff up. ;)

i second this motion

I actually agree too.

I agree too. I think we have way too many forums. We should reduce the number. It makes it harder to check for new posts. Even though the "new post" filter is a very good tool, when it passes midnight GMT it resets.

I say merge the love with fun and the technology with the education and research.

But not everything about love is fun! :) I don't want to read about someone breaking up with their girlfriend, beaing cheated on or being cleaned out by their ex in the FUN forum! ;)

I do agree though, at the moment we don't have enough posts or members to justify this. If everyone's for it, I'm in too.

^^^Toofan likes it either extreme or nothing at all :)

Hey either go big or go home that's what I always say. I agree with Toofan jan I think it's a good idea to merge the love and fun forum together.

Hey either go big or go home that's what I always say. I agree with Toofan jan I think it's a good idea to merge the love and fun forum together.

yeah...and add an adult forum instead :)

I have asked for it in the other thread as well!!
WTH is love? we live in real world and there is no such thing as love!! (I'm being a bit dramatic, but seriously LOVE FORUM? what are we? 15 year olds :p)

I have asked for it in the other thread as well!!
WTH is love? we live in real world and there is no such thing as love!! (I'm being a bit dramatic, but seriously LOVE FORUM? what are we? 15 year olds :p)

Great song What is love baby don't hurt me don't hurt me no more.
YouTube - Haddaway-What is Love?

I have asked for it in the other thread as well!!
WTH is love? we live in real world and there is no such thing as love!! (I'm being a bit dramatic, but seriously LOVE FORUM? what are we? 15 year olds :p)

Dude! Love is learning to appreciate people and things, for what is not immediately known or appealing to the senses - i.e. Love is going beyond your 5 senses. It doesn't have to be for someone of the opposite sex, it can be for anything.

You love football, no? Well, watching the game on TV and hearing the commentary or getting excited when a goal is socred and screaming your lungs out (appealing to 3 senses), that's just liking football. Being in the stadium in the rain and sitting beside some smelly and sweaty guy cheering your team on, even though it doesn't appeal to all your senses, is LOVING football. :wavetowel2:

The same goes for any type of love.

Dude! Love is learning to appreciate people and things, for what is not immediately known or appealing to the senses - i.e. Love is going beyond your 5 senses. It doesn't have to be for someone of the opposite sex, it can be for anything.

You love football, no? Well, watching the game on TV and hearing the commentary or getting excited when a goal is socred and screaming your lungs out (appealing to 3 senses), that's just liking football. Being in the stadium in the rain and sitting beside some smelly and sweaty guy cheering your team on, even though it doesn't appeal to all your senses, is LOVING football. :wavetowel2:

The same goes for any type of love.

Wow that was deep man! lol
But no, I haven't exprienced real love yet! I thought I have but it turns out to be not true!

True, lets merge into the fun fourm.

Wow that was deep man! lol
But no, I haven't exprienced real love yet! I thought I have but it turns out to be not true!

LOL. You haven't seen deep bro! ;)
Joking aside, what are you saying, that you don't love Football?! Please don't tell me you haven't been to a Football match. If you haven't though, you're going to love the contest we have coming up next week. Free WC Tickets or tickets to any soccer game of your choice up to $200 (total for 2)! :)

Behrou, is Sammy looking over your shoulder, perhaps holding a frying pan, as you reply to this thread? :D

Behrou, is Sammy looking over your shoulder, perhaps holding a frying pan, as you reply to this thread? :D

LOL, so thats it behrou, you just want this site to show your romantic side to your wife to be :D

LMAO. Yeah, always assume she's looking over my shoulder with a HOT frying pan, when you read some of the stranger posts! ;)

LOL. You haven't seen deep bro! ;)
Joking aside, what are you saying, that you don't love Football?! Please don't tell me you haven't been to a Football match. If you haven't though, you're going to love the contest we have coming up next week. Free WC Tickets or tickets to any soccer game of your choice up to $200 (total for 2)! :)

dude, I used to love football. I used to have Tottenham season tickets, but not anymore, I think the last time I went to a stadium was 2 month ago, becuase my cousin from NY wanted to watch ManU!!!

But I still care deeply about Esteghlal:party1:

Well I'm in love for 4 years now...these are the best times of my life...never been so alive...never had so much fun...never had so much success in every aspect of my personal life....and it's all thanks to her...I will defintely be close to death without her...an angel has touched my entire being...
(PS this is coming form a guy who used to be very vey bad...:) you know music..band ...and other associated stuff)

That's what I like to see and hear Ramin jaan. :)
And I think it's so awesome that you can refer to her as an angel. As for the PS, I think we all have to dance with the devil before we can appreciate flying with the angels! ;)

Well I'm in love for 4 years now...these are the best times of my life...never been so alive...never had so much fun...never had so much success in every aspect of my personal life....and it's all thanks to her...I will defintely be close to death without her...an angel has touched my entire being...
(PS this is coming form a guy who used to be very vey bad...:) you know music..band ...and other associated stuff)

Oh my god, Toofan was right.:mf_seehearspeak: J/K

.(PS this is coming form a guy who used to be very vey bad...:) you know music..band ...and other associated stuff)

Does anyone remember George Thoroggod's "Bad to the bone?

YouTube - GEORGE THOROGOOD "Bad To The Bone"

Well I'm in love for 4 years now...these are the best times of my life...never been so alive...never had so much fun...never had so much success in every aspect of my personal life....and it's all thanks to her...I will defintely be close to death without her...an angel has touched my entire being...
(PS this is coming form a guy who used to be very vey bad...:) you know music..band ...and other associated stuff)

ramin jan
this is sign of getting old mate. lol ba in hesab 2 rooz dige you gonna be a dady or what?

I dont believe in Love. never had never will. you see someone and you think life without her means nothing and one day you realise she has been cheating behind your back and you lose all that Love?? if sth is deep then it cant be deleted in quarter of a second right??
Love is an emotional feeling mainly cause and rules by sexual senses or our un-conditional love towards our family members.
I have had so many friends who started their married life with party and cake and exchanging honey but got divorced after 3-6 months when hating eachother to death. this is not LOVE be khoda. Love is U N C O N D I T I O N A L

People change after marriage guys. You may know someone for years, but once you are married unexpected events take over and you could end up hating. I know so many people who were happily partners for years, but once they got married they split up after a few months. It happened to my closest friend at Uni.

You can never know about anyone. I have had my share of 'love'. You get so blinded that you close an eye to all the things you disaprove of. But only after you you break up, you look back and see all the things that weren't right.

There is no such a thing as a simple relationship. All relationships are complicated because people are complicated. You just have to learn and live with them. It's called life!

People change after marriage guys. You may know someone for years, but once you are married unexpected events take over and you could end up hating. I know so many people who were happily partners for years, but once they got married they split up after a few months. It happened to my closest friend at Uni.

You can never know about anyone. I have had my share of 'love'. You get so blinded that you close an eye to all the things you disaprove of. But only after you you break up, you look back and see all the things that weren't right.

There is no such a thing as a simple relationship. All relationships are complicated because people are complicated. You just have to learn and live with them. It's called life!
agreed
As I said love is unconditional. this feeling we have and wrongly call it love is sth else. its a lust plus some salt and pepper.
It is sex that makes it interesting .simply skip the sexual part from it and u cant continue the love.
Has anybody still has connection with an ex-gf or ex-wife? how many still see their ex(es) and still have the same feeling? do u care if ur ex-love sleeps with someone else? be honest
chak

Hamid jaan, I didn't know you were a Thorogood fan. That's one of my favorite attitude songs. :)

Alila jaan, I have a question for you. I'm guessing you're talking from personal experience on this cheating issue and that it was in a serious relationship. So here's my question to you, did the issue of cheating ever come up in conversations prior to that? Did you discuss together at the beginning what your thoughts are about that, or was it just "assumed" that it's out of the realm of possibilities for your partner to start looking for something else, or someone else at any future point?

Behrooz jaan, I have alreay been through what you described twice, not just myslef, but with friends (i.e. I've been through 2 generation of friends who've been through what you described and I've been through it both times with them). People don't change that easily. It is only their perception and awareness that changes. So, many things that you ignored before (when you're not living together) are now in your face and you can't ignore them anymore. There is also this wrong perception that marriage is about compromise and I've even often heard sacrifice and that's a real crock of crap IMHO. Marriage should be a fun adventure, not a chore and if that's not how one's evaluating their partner at the start (whether they're a good buddy for a fun long adventure), then of course it's going to fall apart. Who wants to do a chore for the rest of their lives?!

Marriage is like any other relationship. You choose people who to the best of your knowledge at that moment in time, will be on the same path in life in the long run. People often don't even know what path they're on, let alone be able to assertain whether their partner will be on the same path. Marriage is a serious commitment, emotionally, physically, spiritually, intellectually and even financially. And from what I've seen 95% of the people don't realize this when they get married. 95% of peopel I meet don't realize that respect and friendship are the most 2 important issues in a marriage not cooking, sex, looks, what someone's father does for a living, which part of what country from, etc., etc. etc. When someone's input to the formula is warped from the start, you can't expect a good output IMHO.

And of course there are no guarantees in life and that's another important thing to realize right from the start. That piece of paper is not a lifelong membership, it's a season's pass and if the strengths of a relationship are not reinforced, if the benefits of that pass aren't there for either partner for the next season, then of course it's going to fall apart. Relationships are dynamic, not static. That's the biggest mistake people make is to think that marriage (or living together) is about settling down (i.e. become static) - it's not. It's being even more dynamic, more flexible and more responsible that you were before. It's about being prepared to grow more than you ever did before. That's just my 2 cents as a guy with 22 years of experience in relationships (sorry, about the extra 2 years, but what can I say, I was Bad to The Bone and there were some overlaps there! ;))

agreed
As I said love is unconditional. this feeling we have and wrongly call it love is sth else. its a lust plus some salt and pepper.
It is sex that makes it interesting .simply skip the sexual part from it and u cant continue the love.
Has anybody still has connection with an ex-gf or ex-wife? how many still see their ex(es) and still have the same feeling? do u care if ur ex-love sleeps with someone else? be honest
chak
I still have connection with my first girl friend. We were close to getting engaged. But we broke up because our path was different. Of course I don't have the same feeling. If I did I would be stuck at the time. The key is understanding the issues and reasons behind breaking up and then moving on.


Hamid jaan, I didn't know you were a Thorogood fan. That's one of my favorite attitude songs. :)

Alila jaan, I have a question for you. I'm guessing you're talking from personal experience on this cheating issue and that it was in a serious relationship. So here's my question to you, did the issue of cheating ever come up in conversations prior to that? Did you discuss together at the beginning what your thoughts are about that, or was it just "assumed" that it's out of the realm of possibilities for your partner to start looking for something else, or someone else at any future point?

Behrooz jaan, I have alreay been through what you described twice, not just myslef, but with friends (i.e. I've been through 2 generation of friends who've been through what you described and I've been through it both times with them). People don't change that easily. It is only their perception and awareness that changes. So, many things that you ignored before (when you're not living together) are now in your face and you can't ignore them anymore. There is also this wrong perception that marriage is about compromise and I've even often heard sacrifice and that's a real crock of crap IMHO. Marriage should be a fun adventure, not a chore and if that's not how one's evaluating their partner at the start (whether they're a good buddy for a fun long adventure), then of course it's going to fall apart. Who wants to do a chore for the rest of their lives?!

Marriage is like any other relationship. You choose people who to the best of your knowledge at that moment in time, will be on the same path in life in the long run. People often don't even know what path they're on, let alone be able to assertain whether their partner will be on the same path. Marriage is a serious commitment, emotionally, physically, spiritually, intellectually and even financially. And from what I've seen 95% of the people don't realize this when they get married. 95% of peopel I meet don't realize that respect and friendship are the most 2 important issues in a marriage not cooking, sex, looks, what someone's father does for a living, which part of what country from, etc., etc. etc. When someone's input to the formula is warped from the start, you can't expect a good output IMHO.

And of course there are no guarantees in life and that's another important thing to realize right from the start. That piece of paper is not a lifelong membership, it's a season's pass and if the strengths of a relationship are not reinforced, if the benefits of that pass aren't there for either partner for the next season, then of course it's going to fall apart. Relationships are dynamic, not static. That's the biggest mistake people make is to think that marriage (or living together) is about settling down (i.e. become static) - it's not. It's being even more dynamic, more flexible and more responsible that you were before. It's about being prepared to grow more than you ever did before. That's just my 2 cents as a guy with 22 years of experience in relationships (sorry, about the extra 2 years, but what can I say, I was Bad to The Bone and there were some overlaps there! ;))

Words of wisdom. That friendship and respect should always be the base. If that is the case even after break up the friendship and respect is going to stay.

Hamid jaan, I didn't know you were a Thorogood fan. That's one of my favorite attitude songs. :)

Alila jaan, I have a question for you. I'm guessing you're talking from personal experience on this cheating issue and that it was in a serious relationship. So here's my question to you, did the issue of cheating ever come up in conversations prior to that? Did you discuss together at the beginning what your thoughts are about that, or was it just "assumed" that it's out of the realm of possibilities for your partner to start looking for something else, or someone else at any future point?

Behrooz jaan, I have alreay been through what you described twice, not just myslef, but with friends (i.e. I've been through 2 generation of friends who've been through what you described and I've been through it both times with them). People don't change that easily. It is only their perception and awareness that changes. So, many things that you ignored before (when you're not living together) are now in your face and you can't ignore them anymore. There is also this wrong perception that marriage is about compromise and I've even often heard sacrifice and that's a real crock of crap IMHO. Marriage should be a fun adventure, not a chore and if that's not how one's evaluating their partner at the start (whether they're a good buddy for a fun long adventure), then of course it's going to fall apart. Who wants to do a chore for the rest of their lives?!

Marriage is like any other relationship. You choose people who to the best of your knowledge at that moment in time, will be on the same path in life in the long run. People often don't even know what path they're on, let alone be able to assertain whether their partner will be on the same path. Marriage is a serious commitment, emotionally, physically, spiritually, intellectually and even financially. And from what I've seen 95% of the people don't realize this when they get married. 95% of peopel I meet don't realize that respect and friendship are the most 2 important issues in a marriage not cooking, sex, looks, what someone's father does for a living, which part of what country from, etc., etc. etc. When someone's input to the formula is warped from the start, you can't expect a good output IMHO.

And of course there are no guarantees in life and that's another important thing to realize right from the start. That piece of paper is not a lifelong membership, it's a season's pass and if the strengths of a relationship are not reinforced, if the benefits of that pass aren't there for either partner for the next season, then of course it's going to fall apart. Relationships are dynamic, not static. That's the biggest mistake people make is to think that marriage (or living together) is about settling down (i.e. become static) - it's not. It's being even more dynamic, more flexible and more responsible that you were before. It's about being prepared to grow more than you ever did before. That's just my 2 cents as a guy with 22 years of experience in relationships (sorry, about the extra 2 years, but what can I say, I was Bad to The Bone and there were some overlaps there! ;))

behrou jan

Well cheating is quite common in england I dont know why!!! but yes I have experienced the cheating and to be honest with u it was quite surprising for me.
I am no general parsaian who been a womanizer in the past but I guess I have seen enough girls and women and My points are quite valid.

All I am saying is that Love must be unconditional. women think of love differently compared to men.
I suggest you and others read The Vagina Monologues
The Vagina Monologues: Eve Ensler: Amazon.co.uk: Books

chak

I still have connection with my first girl friend. We were close to getting engaged. But we broke up because our path was different. Of course I don't have the same feeling. If I did I would be stuck at the time. The key is understanding the issues and reasons behind breaking up and then moving on.

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thats what I am saying. once you were closed to get engaged and now you are married to someone else and perhaps have kids. as you said you still have the connection with her but it is not the same as the sexual part ( sorry talking direct) is gone and the love is not there anymore.

Ali to dobare gir love o ina oftadi bro?

toke dastan e man o midooni!!! Mahatb o eshgh o javooni lol!!! manam mese to fek mikonam the only real love is Mother/father to their childs and vise versa

I was actually going to go see the Vagina Monologues when it came to Toronto. Heard a lot of good things about it, but if I knew it came with a recommendation like that, I would have defiitely done it.

You didn't asnwer my question though Ali jaan. Had the topic of cheating ever come up in your relationship beforehand? Did you ever say to your partner, look, I don't expect us to be together forever and if you're interested in seeing someone else, I'd like to know about it ahead of time? Was there a mechanism in place for her to be able to tell you that, or was it just easier for her to go and do it behind your back?

Personally, I think cheating is betrayal of the worst kind - not of a partner, but of a friendship. So someone who'd do something like that has no respect or understanding of friendship. Having said that, the act would be often a reaction of your partner to her perception that you'd lack understanding of respect and friendship - I'm not saying in anyway that's correct ot a justification for what happened, but since you subscribe to the notion of logic, this is purely logical and non-emotional thinkging. and that's why I was asking whether there was a mechanism in your relationship for her to be able to talk to you about such topics. BTW, I hope you don't mind the frank exchange, but as someone who has experienced a lot of things in life, I always prefer my friends challenging my way of thinking than agreeing with me ;)