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YouTube - George Galloway Comments Iran's Presidential Election - Part 1 of 7 (Malay Sub)
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I don't think there is any more uglier animal in the world than George Galloway.
I will never forget those days when Iranian youth were swimming in their own blood pool under the tracks of 100Damn's tanks and Galloway the scum was licking his balls for few Iraqi Dinars. I spit on his face, he has lesser value to me than than a flea on my dog's ares.

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Did you also see Mr. ansarian and afrastibi discussion?
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Did you also see Mr. ansarian and afrastibi discussion?
Yes I watched Mr. Ansarians comments but under no circumstances I would waste a second of my time to listen to Gaaveh Afrasiabi who has been in IRI payroll for over 15 years.

Galloway is a barking old Nazi with a clear personal agenda. Putting objectivity and him in the same sentence is like putting Hitler in the Torah along with Cyrus. And you hit the nail right on the head with Afrasiabi Rasoul jaan. This is an exerpt from Walter Mebane's report which he so flagrantly uses to advance his argument:

"In general, combining the first-stage 2005 and 2009 data conveys the impression that while natural political processes significantly contributed to the election outcome, outcomes in many towns were produced by very different processes. The natural processes in 2009 have Ahmadinejad tending to do best in towns where his support in 2005 was highest and tending to do worst in towns where turnout surged the most. But in more than half of the towns where comparisons to the first-stage 2005 results are feasible, Ahmadinejad’s vote counts are not at all or only poorly described by the naturalistic model.

Much more often than not, these poorly modeled observations have vote counts for Ahmadinejad that are greater than the naturalistic model would imply. While it is not possible given only the current data to say for sure whether this reflects natural complexity in the political processes or artificial manipulations, the numerous outliers comport more with the idea that there was widespread fraud than with the idea that all the departures from the model are benign."

Yes I watched Mr. Ansarians comments but under no circumstances I would waste a second of my time to listen to Gaaveh Afrasiabi who has been in IRI payroll for over 15 years.
Generally I find a discussion with all pro IR people on any subject unintelligent. But they are somehow able to force me to listen to their
rubbish. I don't undertand why.
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Well, it's always good to listen to all arguments on any subject DS jaan. But determining the validity of the argument is obviously up to the individual. In this particular case, as per the exerpt from Walter Mebane's analysis, it is obvious that Mr. Afrasiabi is talking out of his ass.

Once you use an expert opinion to validate your argument, and that expert, in the presence of more data, ends up invalidating your argument, there's no going back. In essence, Mr. Afrasiabi put's Mebane's analysis over all others, calling him an expert. Mebane in return and subject to further analysis determined that the result of the election was most likely fraudulent. So, Mr. Afrasiabi does look an idiot at the end.

Of course, if you call up PressTV or send them an e-mail to reflect the latest opinions of Mr. Mebane, you won't be getting far. They're not interested in reflecting all opinions or having an objective debate, they are a propoganda machine for the Islamic Republic government and franly, I have no idea how their newscasters and reporters can go to sleep at night.

Generally I find a discussion with all pro IR people on any subject unintelligent. But they are somehow able to force me to listen to their
rubbish. I don't undertand why.
D.S jAn,
I would do the same if I feel there is a slight chance of me learning some thing and the person whom I'm paying attention to is objective and unbiased, also I pay keen attention that he/she is not after financial gain.
Gaaveh afrasiabi falls under the latter.
Here is a part his interview with Don Lemon:

LEMON: Hey, Mister. . .

AFRASIABI: And. . .

LEMON: Mr. Afrasiabi, I want to get. . .

AFRASIABI: Go ahead.

LEMON: ... a couple of things in here to make sure that we hear from you. Do you support the president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad?

AFRASIABI: On balance, I do, and I think that he's done a tremendous job in terms of strengthening Iran. Iran today is a regional powerhouse with considerable international influence. He has defended Iran's nuclear right, and he has also made conciliatory gestures towards the United States and has offered to enter into dialogue.

Full interview here:

http://monthlyreview.org/mrzine/afrasiabi170609.html

> I think that he's done a tremendous job in terms of strengthening Iran. Bull shit! Iran is economically, acadamically, and even athletically weaker than it was during Khatami. We have taken a beating in every area you can think of. What bothers me about a$$holes like Gaaveh i they make the stupidest blanket statements like this and have the odocity to say that burden of proof is on others!

> Iran today is a regional powerhouse with considerable international influence.
Yeah, he just made his claim even stupider with this clarification. Venezuela, Cuba, Hamas and Hezbollah are "considerable international influence!!!" Honestly you can only beat the truth out of individuals like this!

> He has defended Iran's nuclear right,
For f*** sake! My dog Dobie could have defended Iran's nuclear right better than this. Defending one's right and carrying on against UN resolutions and in lieu of sancations is not defending anything. It's one maniac's attempt to compensate for his small stature and "deek" as Rasoul jaan would say. ;)

> And he has also made conciliatory gestures towards the United States and has offered to enter into dialogue.
LOL. If you watch National Geographic, you will see that baboons have the exact same body language when they're pissed and become aggressive. I guess in the land of Baboons, this body language and AN rhetoric is conciliatory, but in the human world, you guys are just baboons.

You know what, someone needs to show up at this guy's door or corner him in a little alley and give him the type of beating that our hamvatans were getting from AN's baboons on the streets. Then ask him after, if he still supports AN and that type of response. We Iranians have just become to nice and civil. Just a thought.

YouTube - Were the Iranian Elections Rigged? Interview with Kaveh Afrasiabi
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