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DireStraits 07-16-2009, 04:09 PM YouTube - Mohsen Sazegara Thursday 25 Tir 1388
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Bi-Honar 07-16-2009, 04:26 PM Who is this guy DS jaan?
DireStraits 07-16-2009, 05:48 PM Who is this guy DS jaan?
Behrou jan, I don't know the guy. I sometimes see him in VOA. But
I have a feeling that tommorow will not be a normal day.
Do you know him?
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Motori 07-16-2009, 06:03 PM Who is this guy DS jaan?
Mr. G,
I know him very well, his brother was my direct Boss for about 5 years, and I know the whole family.
Mohsen was one of those revolutionaries who believed in Enghelaab and decided to do his best for it. He was picked by khomeinists to organize IRGC and he did, so I could say he is the master mind behind that force.
After 1988 prison massacre which was done by direct order from khomeini him, Montazeri and many other revolutionaries got disenchanted by regime and separated themselves from the elite and decided to work against it.
Almost all got arrested and poisoned for many years.
When Sazgara was released he started the opposition again until he felt it is not safe for him to saty and decided to flee to US.
I think he is a professor in Harvard nowadays teaching "something" also acts as a voice for opposition.
There is a page in wiki about him you might want to check it out.
Bi-Honar 07-16-2009, 06:34 PM Thanks Rasoul jaan, first hand info is always better than Wiki, although I did check the Wiki page too. Impressive resume, although it looks like he was the one who fired my father and many of the top Iranian Radio people at the time, who were advocating freedom in the media during the Shah and helped the revolution in many ways. :( But, the past is the past and it looks like he has learnt from his mistakes which is good.
BTW Rasoul jaan, check your PM please...
DireStraits 07-16-2009, 07:40 PM Last night it occured to me that tommorow is a perfect time for a coupe
Either from AN side or the opposition side. It seems her that Sazgara is instructing this.
It is freday. So those in streets don't walk because they have to work.
If say 6 million people show up tomorrow assuming at most few 100,000
are hezi the rest must be opposition. If Hezis from shahrestans also
attend there will not be enough to be in those sharestans if they arreange
something in there.
That is why I posted this. I usually don't write this on ISP bc it will be read by hezis. But if say even monarchists have a plan to cope tommorow is
a perfect timing.
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Bi-Honar 07-16-2009, 07:55 PM Which Amouzgar are you talking about DS jaan?
artavile 07-16-2009, 07:58 PM You are right DS. Most of the security forces will be pre-occupied with Friday namaz related gathering, it creates a vaccum of sort to take over some of the government run places. BUT those places are heavily guarded by security forces, unless the so called "coup" comes from internal forces, I don't see that happening.
artavile 07-16-2009, 07:59 PM I think he is talking about Sazegara.
DireStraits 07-16-2009, 08:16 PM You are right DS. Most of the security forces will be pre-occupied with Friday namaz related gathering, it creates a vaccum of sort to take over some of the government run places. BUT those places are heavily guarded by security forces, unless the so called "coup" comes from internal forces, I don't see that happening.
If there are people with a plan tommorow is perfect time. I don't know if
there are. But don't for get another thing. If hezis move from shahrestan
to Tehran shahresans will be empty and ready for attack.
Then you should ask yourself what garantees dose Rafsanjani have to
hold a speech. What about mosavi? They must have done some thoughts.
What will they do if they are getting arrested
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artavile 07-16-2009, 08:56 PM If something like that happens, it could certainly turn violent.
DireStraits 07-16-2009, 09:34 PM If something like that happens, it could certainly turn violent.
What i am afraid these days is that we may end in civil war. I think big guys know it. So they carefully watch and test til an appropriate time for a final kill.
The news that Rafsanjani & mosavi will be in freday pray tommorow suggests
that they also have done some thoughts. But there will also be evaluations.
That is why Sazgar asks for videoes.
What happens if say 7 million Iranian protestors are in streets tomorrow? Will the regime sends Basijis to crack down? That won't be easy.
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Motori 07-16-2009, 09:44 PM There is no plan "for now" to conduct any attack on any one or any government building.
The "Green Wave" (which has nothing to do with Mousavi btw) is not a revolution it is actually a "Movement".
No reason to change strategy and/or tactic when every thing is working so well.
In revolution you take out one dictator(shah) and mount a leader in power, only to watch him turn to another dictator (khomeini) down the road.
What is happening in Iran right now is a movement against dictatorship not a dictator, it is trying to eradicate the core of the whole tyranny not just specific tyrant. That is why a leader at this moment is not needed.
You don't need to get violent to do that. We'll loose the whole support of the world.
Lets assume we take over the Tehran TV station, how are you going to keep it, who is going to feed and supply you and how well you'll defend your position when the IRGC tanks and APCs start rolling toward you?
Peaceful demonstrations and reflecting your voice is not illegal in Iran, it is actually a constitutional right (article 27). The whole world knows that. But you start attacking government personnel and properties then you voluntarily have forfeited that right and you will get slaughtered.
DireStraits 07-16-2009, 10:18 PM Rasul jan, You cann't predict that people won't attack some buildings. In Tabriz that
have attacked Seda va Sima.
The society is now divided to two groups. Freedom fighter as you mention but also
extremists & fundomentalists. The moment Freedom fighters get weapon they will
start fighting the government. Frankly I think the government directly or indirectly
are forcing us to it. The news of a gang rape is enough to provocate Iranian people.
This is why I think we are in a dangerouse step.
Big guys are studying the events to see what they can do. US for their own interests
opposition groups for another interests.
But the news about tommorow sounds strange. How can Mosavi and Rafsanjani show up in freday pray without even being afraid that they may get arrested?
They must have some support inside Sepah. Otherwise they get themself killed.
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