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Bi-Honar 07-27-2009, 06:39 PM Apparently $hit has hit the fan and everyone is washing their hands off of what has been happening. I am now certain AN's government will collapse within the next few weeks and many of the people that were responsible for these events will be fired from their positions (at the very least):
http://www.etemaad.ir/Released/88-05-05/103.htm#153330
artavile 07-27-2009, 07:11 PM Behrou jan, I am not at all optimistic about MP’s visit to Evin and other places. They are going to come out with a rosy report in a couple of days confirming everything is fine, just like what Khebregan did after looking into election result.
Bi-Honar 07-27-2009, 07:56 PM I think this Ruhol-Amini incident has put a LOT of pressure on the government Hamid joon and these guys are the elected officials of the people (even if it has been just for show until now). If they put out a wishy washy report, you think the RuhOlAmini's and Mousavi's of the world will be satisfied? You think, the people will have nothing to say about that? Will they have a job after the next Majles election? Whatever happened this time around, you can reast assured there will be NO MORE FAKE ELECTIONS in Iran, under this regime - EVER. Because of this IMHO, there's a huge difference between the situation with non-elected Shoraaye Negahbaan (I think you said Khebregan by mistake) and the elected Majles.
Bi-Honar 07-28-2009, 04:55 PM 140 prisoners from Iran election crackdown freed
TEHRAN, Iran – Iran on Tuesday released 140 people detained in Iran's postelection turmoil and the supreme leader ordered the closure of a prison where human rights groups say jailed protesters were killed, in a nod by authorities to allegations of abuses in the crackdown on protests. The pro-reform opposition has been contending for weeks that jailed protesters and activists were being held in secret facilities and could be undergoing torture. Authorities appear to be paying greater attention to the complaints after the son of a prominent conservative died in prison — reportedly the same one ordered closed Monday. Opposition leader Mir Hossein Mousavi sharply condemned the wave of arrests and deaths, saying the Iranian people "will never forgive them."
The last official word of the number of people in prison from the crackdown was around 500, announced several weeks ago, and arrests have continued since. The heavy crackdown was launched to put down protests that erupted following the June 12 presidential election, in which hard-line incumbent Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was declared the winner but which the opposition says was fraudulent. Among those detained are young protesters, as well as prominent pro-reform politicians, rights activists and lawyers. At least 20 people were killed, according to police, though rights groups say the number is likely far higher.
A parliament committee investigating prisoners' conditions visited Tehran's main prison Evin on Tuesday, and during the visit 140 detainees connected to the protests were released, said Kazem Jalili, a spokesman for the committee, according to the semiofficial ISNA news agency. Another 150 remain in Evin because weapons were found on them when they were arrested, he said. The names of those released were not immediately known. There was no new word on the current total in prisons around the country.
The head of Iran's judiciary, Ayatollah Mahmoud Hashemi Shahroudi, promised on Monday that the public prosecutor would review the situation of all the postelection detainees within a week and decide whether to release or bring them to trial, the state news agency IRNA reported. Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, meanwhile, ordered the closure of Kahrizak prison, on Tehran's southern outskirts, Jalali told the Mehr news agency. "It did not possess the required standards to ensure the rights of the detainees," he said. The closure order was announced Monday in the official IRNA news agency, though the prison was not identified.
Human rights groups have identified at least three protesters they say died after being detained at Kahrizak, though the reports could not be independently confirmed. Kahrizak appeared to have little role as a detention center before the election unrest, but since then many of the detainees are believed to have spent time there. Authorities' new attention to the prisoners issue comes after conservative lawmakers and politicians — the camp from which the government draws its support — expressed anger over the death of the son of Abdolhossein Rouhalamini, a prominent conservative. Rouhalamini is a close ally of Mohsen Rezai, the only conservative running against Ahmadinejad in the election.
His son, Mohsen, who was arrested during a July 9 protest, was taken to a hospital after two weeks and died. The opposition news Web site Norooz reported that Mohsen had been held at Kahrizak and that his face was beaten in when his father received the body. The crackdown was carried out by police, the elite Revolutionary Guards and the pro-government Basij militia. The opposition has warned repeatedly that the detainees are being tortured to force confessions that back the government's contention that the protests were part of a foreign-backed plot to foment a "soft revolution" against the Islamic Republic.
Mousavi, who claims to have won the election, said that amid the disorder of the crackdown, even the judiciary doesn't have access to all the prisoners. "All departments from intelligence to Basij say (those who arrested protesters) were not connected to them. Where are they from? Have they come from Mars?" Mousavi said. "I am sure even the judiciary is not able and has no right to visit many prisons and ask for details." In a speech Monday to a group of teachers, Mousavi denounced the arrests and deaths as a "disaster" and suggested it was worse than abuses under the regime of the pro-American shah, who was toppled in the 1979 revolution that established the Islamic Republic. "We have not experienced such a thing before the revolution. People will not forgive these acts. How is it possible that someone goes into a prison, then his body comes out," he said. He demanded a judiciary investigation in Mohsen Rouhalamini's death. "They will find out what happened. This is not what we expect from the Islamic Republic and the system," he said.
The opposition has called for supporters to attend a "silent memorial" ceremony Thursday for those killed in the crackdown — raising the possibility of a new street confrontation with security forces. The opposition has asked for official permission for the ceremony. Interior Ministry official Mahmoud Abbaszadeh Meshkin said Tuesday that the ministry has not given permission for any rally. He said a ceremony does not need a ministry permit, adding that the opposition's request for a permit raises suspicions that it has "other intentions rather than a memorial."
Bi-Honar 07-28-2009, 05:05 PM RT: 15 days after going to voluntarily defend himself, Ramin Ghahremani was released w/ signs of torture. After his release Ramin told his mother they hung him from his feet for days. born in 1980, had died in hospital 2 days after his release
RT: Mostafaie: It's still unknown which branch will be processing Mohammad Ali Dadkhah's case
RT: Families of Mozaffari, Lilaz, Zeidabadi & Tajernia have been told they're in quarantine & banned from visiting
RT: Families of Abdolfatah Soltani, Abdolreza Tajik & Mahsa Amrabadi also met their prisoners in Evin.
RT: Bahman Ahmadi Amouie has recently been moved from solitary to ward 209 of #evin
RT: Families of Zhila Bani Yaghoub & Bahman Ahmadi Amouie visited this journalist couple separately. Bani Yaghoub's mother: Zhila has become very skinny & we've been told not to wait for her release any time soon
RT: Shadi Sadr is released.
Bi-Honar 07-28-2009, 05:16 PM WOW, things are really heating up. It looks like the momentum is turning aginst AN and toward the Reformer camp. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of Basijis are arrested and jailed as escapegoats for what has happened. I also have a feeling that the crackdown can not and will not continue as it has, if the demonstrations and protests continue.
This is a very interesting and must read interview with Afroogh (ex-parliamentarian and a top and well respected pPinciplist) conducted by Mehr: http://www.mehrnews.com/fa/newsdetail.aspx?NewsID=919876
artavile 07-28-2009, 06:06 PM Behrou jan, I am not at all optimistic about MPs visit to Evin and other places. They are going to come out with a rosy report in a couple of days confirming everything is fine, just like what Khebregan did after looking into election result.
Glad to be wrong, yet again! ;)
Kidding aside, Islamic Shit (IS) is obviously scared and trying to cool things off. Now the green movement should push even harder for all the remaining demands, including ANs dismissal and eventually sacking AG in a near future
Motori 07-28-2009, 07:29 PM Behrou jan, I am not at all optimistic about MPs visit to Evin and other places. They are going to come out with a rosy report in a couple of days confirming everything is fine, just like what Khebregan did after looking into election result.
R.T jAn,
I'm optimistic. The current events inside IR (IS) are not happening on their own. Under tremendous pressure from inside and out of Iran ruling elite has ran out of all other options except giving in and letting unlawful arrests end.
A.G just issued a creed for permanent closure of a prison (name not disclosed yet, but might be notorious Evin but for now we just call it Abou-Ghraib II) due to LOWER prison standards.
Iranians have been putting extreme pressure on top dogs that you can't just walk on the streets and apprehend any one you want at will.
At the other hand Rafi was the first top dog openly asking for release of ALL political prisoners and this is a huge victory for Green Movement.
R.T jAn,
I'm optimistic. The current events inside IR (IS) are not happening on their own. Under tremendous pressure from inside and out of Iran ruling elite has ran out of all other options except giving in and letting unlawful arrests end.
A.G just issued a creed for permanent closure of a prison (name not disclosed yet, but might be notorious Evin but for now we just call it Abou-Ghraib II) due to LOWER prison standards.
Iranians have been putting extreme pressure on top dogs that you can't just walk on the streets and apprehend any one you want at will.
At the other hand Rafi was the first top dog openly asking for release of ALL political prisoners and this is a huge victory for Green Movement.
Rasoul jan, apparently it is not Evin, it is Kahrizak.
raminio05 07-28-2009, 07:45 PM thanks for the good news behrou jaaan
Bi-Honar 07-28-2009, 08:25 PM Yeah, everytime I've got pessimistic in the past month Rasoul jaan has poped up with his usual optimism and I must say he has been right so far and done a great job keeping the troops including myself all wound up (except a little slip here and there about the Isreali snipers by yours truly which I now take back).
YW BTW Ramin jaan.
Motori 07-28-2009, 09:21 PM Rasoul jan, apparently it is not Evin, it is Kahrizak.
Mr, Ped.
I was more thinking of Auschwitz, but I'll take Kahrizak for now.;)
This is from one of the prisoners who got freed from Kahrizak (Rasoul jan, read Auschwitz).
http://elections.7rooz.com/link/1507/
Bi-Honar 07-29-2009, 03:47 PM That's a very diturbing story Pedram jaan. I hope these guys are judged and punished, both here and in the everafter.
BTW: TEHRAN (AFP)--Iranian opposition leaders Mir Hossein Mousavi and Mehdi Karroubi will visit the graves of slain protesters Thursday, the Web site of Karroubi's political party says.
Expect all hell tobreak loose tomorrow - again.
Bi-Honar 07-29-2009, 03:58 PM Iranian Cleric Montazeri Blasts Regime Over Deaths In Custody
TEHRAN (AFP)--Iran's top dissident cleric Grand Ayatollah Hossein Ali Montazeri lashed out at the country's regime Wednesday over the deaths in custody of election protesters. "Those who are behind bars are being forced to confess under torture and every day a body is being delivered to their family," Montazeri said in a letter posted on his Web site.
Iranian media reports say four people detained over the protests that erupted after President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's re-election last month have died in custody. Iranian authorities Tuesday freed 140 protesters and said more would be released by Friday, but 20 would be put on trial on a range of charges including bombings and attacking security forces. "What is their sin, except silently protesting against several wrongdoings, offences and fraud in the election," Montazeri said of the detainees. "What do the authorities gain from the crisis they have created? Was the objective of establishing the Revolutionary Guards and the Basij [militia] to kill brothers and suppress our people?"
Montazeri, who was once tipped to succeed revolutionary leader Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini as supreme leader, urged the "decision makers" to use "logic, reason and Islamic law before the current crisis deepens. "I am very worried like you are," he said in his message to opposition leader
Motori 07-29-2009, 06:10 PM This is from one of the prisoners who got freed from Kahrizak (Rasoul jan, read Auschwitz).
http://elections.7rooz.com/link/1507/
Auschwitz indeed!!
All I feel is disgust and outrage.
Throughout the history these type of despotic, barbaric savagery have been tested and all perpetrators have failed miserably and most of the time fatally and Islamic Schit is not immune, no matter what kind of ancient Book they hold up high.
And this is an article that says Khaenei is at odds with IRGC and AN.
http://tehranbureau.com/looming-confrontation-khamenei-irgc/
Bi-Honar 07-30-2009, 07:23 PM Pedram jaan, for some reason I haven't ever been ablr to open Tehrna Bureau's web site. I tried again with the link and it didn't work. Would you or someone else be kind enough to cut and paste the article. Many thanks in advanced.
Who’s really in charge? Is there a confrontation looming between Iran’s supreme leader and the Revolutionary Guard?
By MUHAMMAD SAHIMI in Los Angeles | 28 July 2009
[TEHRAN BUREAU] analysis Two important developments over the past few days suggest that a possible confrontation may be under way between Iran’s Supreme Leader, Ayatollah Sayyed Ali Khamenei, and the high command of Iran’s Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC).
One development was the order issued by Ayatollah Khamenei overruling Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s appointment of Esfandiar Rahim Mashaei as his First Vice President (Iran’s president has eight vice presidents). The second was the firing of ultra hardliner Gholamhossein Mohseni Ejehei, the Minister of Intelligence.
A reliable source in Tehran told the author that both episodes were meant to be signals by the IRGC’s high command to Ayatollah Khamenei that they were in control, and that he should toe the line — their line. According to the source, Ayatollah’s Khamenei’s order to fire Mashaei was delivered to the Voice and Visage (VaV) of the Islamic Republic (Iran’s national radio and television network) on the day Mashaei was appointed by Ahmadinejad. The VaV was asked to announce the order on national television and radio, but Ezzatollah Zarghami, the director of VaV and a former officer in the IRGC, refused to do so.
As if to make sure that the Ayatollah got the message loud and clear, it took Ahmadinejad one week to relent and go along with the order. And it was only then that the VaV broadcast the Ayatollah’s order. When he did accept the order, Ahmadinejad sent the Supreme Leader a terse and very formal letter, devoid of the usual praises that his past letters to Ayatollah Khamenei have carried. The letter was considered by many supporters of the Ayatollah as a total insult; but also a clear signal. In order to further demonstrate his defiance, Ahmadinejad appointed Mashaei, a close relative and friend, as his chief of staff and special adviser.
According to the source, Ejehei was fired because he was reporting to the Supreme Leader without first letting Ahmadinejad know. He had reportedly said that the Intelligence Ministry had concluded that the accusations by the IRGC high command, that the demonstrations after the election were linked to foreign powers and represented a “velvet revolution,” were baseless. He had also reportedly said that the demonstrations had neither been planned in advance, nor could they have been predicted. Finally, the Intelligence Ministry is said to have reported that Mashaei, as well as Hossein Taeb, a cleric who is the commander of the Basij militia, represented security risks. The report apparently countered all the accusations made by the IRGC high command.
There is a precedent that helps support the theory that Ejehei was ousted for this reason. In the spring of 2008, Mostafa Pourmohammadi, Ahmadinejad’s first Interior Minister, was also fired after he submitted a report to Ayatollah Khamenei about the elections for the 8th Majles (parliament) without Ahmadinejad’s knowledge. In that report, Pourmohammadi reported irregularities committed by Ahmadinejad’s backers. When Ahmadinejad found out about the report, he fired Pourmohammadi almost immediately.
According to the source, Ayatollah Khamenei had also ordered the closure of one of the jails, one in which the demonstrators and some of the leading reformist leaders are being kept; but the order has been ignored by the intelligence and security unit of the IRGC, which runs the prison. Saeed Jalili, Secretary-General of Iran’s Supreme National Security Council, confirmed the Ayatollah’s order for the closure of a jail. Apparently, after the initial order was ignored, it was sent to the Council. While the source did not specify the prison, it might be the Kahrizak prison on the southern edge of Tehran near the Behesht-e Zahra cemetery.
The prison is usually used to hold common criminals and narcotics traffickers, but there have been credible reports indicating that many people arrested in the post-election roundup have also been imprisoned there. Ejehei had apparently complained to Ayatollah Khamenei that the Intelligence Ministry had lost control over those arrested, and that the IRGC unit had taken control of the matter.
There is much speculation about Ejehei’s successor. According to Iranian law, the head of the Ministry of Intelligence must be a mojtahed (an Islamic scholar), and hence, a cleric. It will be interesting to see how Ahmadinejad navigates that one — finding a qualified cleric whose first loyalty is to him and the IRGC high command.
The author’s source also told him that the top commanders of the IRGC are firmly behind Ahmadinejad in his struggle to wrest full control of the government away from the clerics. But, the rank and file of the IRGC is divided into two main groups. The first group supports the reformist movement and remains silent for now (or perhaps it has been forced into silence). The second group is divided. One group is behind Ahmadinejad and the high command of the IRGC; they believe that the clerics should be purged from the government, and that Ayatollah Khamenei should be transformed into an ineffective and irrelevant figurehead. Others in the second group believe that Ayatollah Khamenei is Ma’soom (free of sin, from a religious perspective) and a deputy to Mahdi, the Shiites’ hidden 12th Imam who is supposed to come back some day to rid the world of injustice and corruption. Members of this group believe that obedience to Ayatollah Khamenei is their duty.
According to the source, Hossein Saffar Harandi, Minister of Culture and Islamic Guidance and a former officer in the IRGC, belongs to this group and was forced to resign, after he protested the appointment of Mashaei as First VP. Officially, Saffar Harandi is still part of the cabinet, because if he is formally sacked, the Constitution requires Ahmadinejad to seek a vote of confidence from Majlis since he has replaced half of his cabinet during his four-year term. Since his first term will expire in about 10 days, however, Ahmadinejad does not want the issue before Majles for a vote.
According to a second reliable source in Tehran, seven of Ahmadinejad’s ministers, including Saffar Harandi and Ejehei, wrote a letter to Ayatollah Khamenei last week complaining about their boss and supporting Khamenei to sack Mashaei. It is widely believed that Ahmadinejad intends to fire the remaining five after he begins his widely disputed second term. The author already reported on two of the five ministers to be fired.
That the IRGC high command may wish to purge the government of clerics is no surprise. In addition to the fact that the IRGC did the bulk of the fighting with Iraq and eliminated the internal opposition to the political establishment in the 1980s, the IRGC has also been guarding and protecting the high-ranking clerics for the past three decades. The IRGC is therefor privy to much of their secret wheeling and dealings. The IRGC holds information on cases of corruption and nepotism among clerics over their heads like the Sword of Damocles.
When last year, Abbas Palizdar, an ally of Ahmadinejad, spoke of 123 cases of corruption among the clerics and their families, many interpreted that as a clear attempt by Ahmadinejad and his supporters to push most of the clerics out of power. Palizdar was later jailed and Ahmadinejad disowned him. But he was recently released from prison after posting a $300,000 bail. My sources in Tehran told me that the joke there was that after Ali Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani’s Friday Prayer sermon of July 17, calling for the release of political prisoners, the hardliners released Palizadar!
Ayatollah Khamenei himself has played a major role in the rise of the IRGC. When Mohammad Khatami won the presidential election in 1997 by a landslide, a group of reformist leaders met with the supreme leader and asked him to heed the nation’s message of such a victory. In order to leave a credible legacy behind and save a political system in which had had played an important role, they advised the supreme leader to personally take a lead in the reform of the system. Not only did Ayatollah Khamenei refuse to do so, he more closely sided with the hardliners who were trying to gut the Khatami administration. It got to the point that when Khatami was president, he complained that the hardliners were creating a crisis for the country every nine days.
In 2005, after Khatami had to leave office after a second term, Ahmadinejad was elected president with the support of Ayatollah Khamenei. But practically from Day 1, Ahmadinejad began attacking many clerics in the name of fighting corruption. Ayatollah Khamenei continued to throw his support behind Ahmadinejad, presumably because he believed Ahmadinejad could force out his competitor Rafsanjani, his competitor in the power struggle.
Even when Rafsanjani wrote a letter to Ayatollah Khamenei a few days before the election and warned him about possible fraud, the Ayatollah did not take any significant action. It is widely rumored that he told Rafsanjani that “Ahmadinejad’s defeat is my defeat.”
On Tuesday June 16, four days after the election, when the country was in deep crisis due to the huge demonstrations that had erupted, Ayatollah Khamenei summoned to his office representatives of all the presidential candidates, as well as members of the Expediency Council and the staff of the Interior Ministry, which supervises the election, in order to seek a solution to the crisis. Two people in that meeting, former Tehran Mayor Morteza Alviri (representing Mahdi Karroubi, one of the two reformist candidates), and former Oil Minister, Bijan Namdar Zangeneh, proposed that the problem be referred to the Expediency Council. But, Ayatollah Khamenei refused.
Instead, on June 19, during his Friday Prayer sermon, the Ayatollah threatened the Iranian nation and the reformists. When the next day demonstrations erupted again and many young people were killed, many Iranians held the Ayatollah responsible for the bloodshed. According to the author’s sources in Tehran, the high command of the IRGC recognized that the responsibility for the bloodshed would be squarely on the Ayatollah and therefore persuaded him to take a hard line. According to the same sources, the thinking of the high command of the IRGC is that, among conservative voters, Ahmadinejad is far more popular than Ayatollah Khamenei, and that therefore, the Ayatollah has trapped himself and has no clear way out of the difficult situation that he himself has created. This allows the IRGC high command to marginalize him.
What is not clear is the role of Mojtaba Khamenei, the Ayatollah’s son. Mojtaba is believed to be close to the high command of the IRGC. Will he be purged as well? Will the IRGC consider him as irrelevant, now that they have achieved their goal of “re-electing” Ahmadinejad? Or, does he have a role in any of this?
Ahmadinejad’s “re-election” is supposed to be confirmed by Ayatollah Khamenei on August 4, and he will take the oath of office in the Majles the next day. The next 10 days will as critical as they will be intriguing.
Update: Yaa Lessaraat, the mouthpiece of Ansaar-e Hezbollah, harshly criticized Mahmoud Ahmadinejad for his delay in firing Mashaei and firing his ministers — another sign of straining relations between IRGC-backed Ahmadinejad and the clerics.
Copyright 2009 Tehran Bureau
artavile 07-30-2009, 08:19 PM Thanks PJ, that was an excellent article.
Bi-Honar 07-30-2009, 10:54 PM Thank you so much Pedram jaan. That is indeed and EXCELLENT and very informative article. Looks ke things are REALLY heating up. :)
What a load of crap this guy is spurting out of his mouth. 50 Coctail Molotov!!!
This is the first time I am hearing about this after a month!!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/persian/iran/2009/07/090731_taeb_basij_students.shtml
Motori 07-31-2009, 05:06 PM What a load of crap this guy is spurting out of his mouth. 50 Coctail Molotov!!!
This is the first time I am hearing about this after a month!!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/persian/iran/2009/07/090731_taeb_basij_students.shtml
"Colored Revolutions" and "Velvet Revolutions" are the most complicated and difficult for dictators to contend with.
That is why they are trying to portray Green Movement as a violent revolution thus permission or justification I might say for killing people.
They have been trying this ever since June 13 without any significant success, and the consequence was the demise of Ejehi minister of VEVAK.
This an analysis of the current situation by Bani-sadr. Very interesting read.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/01/opinion/01iht-edbanisadr.html
Bi-Honar 07-31-2009, 07:17 PM Thanks Perdram jaan for both articles. I didn't know Banisadr could write so well in English! Both articles (even the one with the molotov cocktails) seem to support the earlier article you had posted. If Khamenei is planning or willing to meet with the victims' families, he must be feeling threatened by IRGC and is now seeking support from the people. If this is true, the IRGC coup is very real, well planned and in its final stages.
I just can't see them succeed though. They are now hated by the people (which is nothing new, but the extent of it has certainly grown in the past few weeks), have growing opposition from the clergy, fierce resistance from the "green movement", no friends with significant resources or influence outside the country and surely some dissatisfaction among the ranks.
It seems as if AN, in his pure stupidity and arrogance, has put the IRGC up against the world and in the process, single handeldly accomplished what Iranians as a nation couldn't accomplish in 30 years - unravelling the very fabric of the Islamic Republic. He is in essence taking the IR out of IRAN and leaving it with pure AN!!! ;)
Chakeram Behrou jan.
And here is a video clip that says NE is fighting Basij, although I can't differentiate between them. :NoTooth:
YouTube - Iran , Dargiriye Nirouye Entezami ba Basij
Motori 07-31-2009, 08:41 PM Thanks Perdram jaan for both articles. I didn't know Banisadr could write so well in English!
Mr, G.
Banisadr is kinda fluent in French but not so good in English, I'm sure his article has been translated from either Persian or French by some one else.
Bi-Honar 08-01-2009, 12:55 AM Vaghan in clip akhari khar too khar bood Pedram jaan - no pun intended! ;)
Yeah, I figured he most likely speaks fluent French and was looking for any reference to the article being translated, but couldn't find anything Rasoul jaan. Maybe he has learnt English in the past 15 years!
So, here's the Friday sermon breakdown and where the lyalties lie:
Qom (Ebrahim Amini): We shouldn't call young people anti-revolutionaries. "We should respect their wishes and sensitivities and listen to what they have to say... Blah blah blah. Basically Qom, as we all know, is surprisingly pro-reform, at least ot some extent. The clergy there feel more and more isolated by AN's government and actions.
Esfehan (Tabatabai-Nejad): He babbled a little bit about "mashrootiat" and having to listen to "rahbar". The way I'm reading it, the subject of his speech was AN more than anyone else. Of course he is Khamenei's representative and Esfehan is generally a more traditional and religou audience - still no anti-reform slogans in there.
Shiraz (Imani): He also babbled about "mashrootiat" and stuff. Again, everyone's pretty much staying on the sideline of the stuggle at this point.
Mashad (Alamolhodi): We can not simply forget those lives which have been lost. Mashad is definitely anti AN.
Motori 08-01-2009, 09:20 PM Chakeram Behrou jan.
And here is a video clip that says NE is fighting Basij, although I can't differentiate between them. :NoTooth:
YouTube - YouTube Iran Dargiriye Nirouye Entezami ba Basij (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMMebh-6RCU&feature=player_embedded)
Mr, Ped.
I've heard there are many Iranians who are saving these clips and news in their websites but I don't know where to go. The video has been removed.
I know about IranTube.com but it seems they just link the clips from U.T.
NE??
Rasoul jan I just searched on Utube for the same title and found another copy of the same video. Fixed the link. Try it now. NE mean nirooye entezami. :NoTooth:
artavile 08-01-2009, 09:32 PM Neroyeh Entezami (NE)
Motori 08-02-2009, 12:33 AM Rasoul jan I just searched on Utube for the same title and found another copy of the same video. Fixed the link. Try it now. NE mean nirooye entezami. :NoTooth:
Many thanx. I'll check it out.
Motori 08-02-2009, 12:34 AM Many thanx. I'll check it out.
Why thank you Sir.
In ham yek video az daneshgahe ma. ;) Wish I was there.
YouTube - ‫مراسم چهلم شهدای جنبش سبز در دانشگاه شریف‬‎
Bi-Honar 08-02-2009, 04:19 PM Dameshoon garm. In joor barkhordeshoon baa police va NE kaamelan doroste. One has to educate these people one step and one person at a time. Doorood bar sheraafate har chi Sharifieh. :)
Bi-Honar 08-02-2009, 05:06 PM Top advisor resigns as Ahmadinejad faces more Iran cabinet problems
Tehran - Ali-Akbar Javanfekr, a top advisor to Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, resigned Sunday, the ISNA students' news agency reported. Javanfekr, the president's press and media advisor, told the agency his decision would "give a free hand to Ahmadinejad to choose a capable and effective person to serve in this post."
Ahmadinejad is due to be endorsed in his post by supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei on Monday following his disputed June 12 presidential election victory. Ahmadinejad's insistence on appointing Esfandiar Rahim-Mashaie as first vice president sparked strong criticism among his conservative allies, and he has been facing difficulties in picking favourable nominees for his next cabinet.
Rahim-Mashaie had fallen out of favour within the government and opposition when he called Iran a friend of the Israeli people. Ahmadinejad ignored demands from within his own camp to rethink the appointment, and parliament then took the case to the supreme leader. Khamenei ordered the president to promptly dismiss Rahim-Mashaie. But for an entire week, Ahmadinejad ignored the instruction from the constitutional head who has final say on all state affairs. Rahim-Mashaie eventually announced his own resignation.
Ahmadinejad later sacked two ministers last week - intelligence minister Gholam-Hossein Mohseni-Ejei and culture minister Mohammad- Hossein Safar Harandi - in the dispute over Rahim-Mashaie.
Bi-Honar 08-02-2009, 05:11 PM Iranian TV station confirms detainment of 3 U.S. tourists
SULAIMANIYAH, Iraq (AP) Iranian state TV confirmed Saturday that Tehran has detained three Americans after they crossed the border from northern Iraq. The Kurdish regional government's envoy to Washington, Qubad Talabani, told the Associated Press the three were tourists and had mistakenly crossed into Iranian territory Friday while hiking in a mountainous area near the town of Ahmed Awaa. "The Iranians said they have arrested them because they entered their land without legal permission," he said.
Iran's state owned Arabic-language al-Alam TV station cited a "well-informed source" in the Interior Ministry that the three Americans were detained Friday after crossing into Iran's Kurdistan province. The report said the Americans were arrested after they failed to heed warnings from Iranian border guards. State Department spokesman Robert Wood said Friday the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad "is investigating. We are using all available means to determine the facts in this case." The U.S. Embassy said Saturday it was still unable to confirm any details.
Iraq's self-ruled Kurdish region has been relatively free of the violence that plagues the rest of Iraq. Foreigners often feel freer to move around without security guards in the area, and tourists have been known to visit the scenic area. It is relatively easy for tourists to get into the region, particularly if they arrive by airplane. The Kurdish government generally grants visitors visas valid for one week when they arrive at the airport.
A senior security official in Sulaimaniyah, near the Iranian border, said that the three were last heard from after they contacted a friend saying they had entered Iran by mistake and troops surrounded them. There has been no contact with them since, he said. The official, who asked not to be named because he was not authorized to speak to the media, said the friend they had contacted, the fourth member of their group, was feeling sick and had stayed behind in Sulaimaniyah. No other details were available.
The Iranian state TV report claimed the four Americans were together when they crossed the border, but "only one returned (to Iraq), while the three were arrested." The discrepancy could not immediately be reconciled. According to the security official, the missing Americans were tourists hiking near Halabja and Ahmed Awaa. The four had traveled to Turkey, then entered the Kurdish region Tuesday through the Ibrahim Al-Khalil border point in Zakho, the official said. They visited the Kurdish cities of Irbil and Sulaimaniyah on Wednesday. The next day, three of them took a taxi to Ahmed Awaa where they told their companion that they planned to stay at a nearby resort, the official said.
The mountainous border area is a popular hiking destination and well-known for its thick growth of pistachio trees. U.S. helicopters were buzzing overhead and many U.S. Humvees had moved into the Kurdish city of Halabja to search for the Americans, said a Kurdish border force official. Halabja, 150 miles northeast of Baghdad, was the site of a chemical weapons attack ordered by Saddam Hussein in 1988 as part of a scorched-earth campaign to crush a Kurdish rebellion. An estimated 5,600 people were killed in the nerve and mustard gas attacks the vast majority Kurds and many still suffer the aftereffects.
Bi-Honar 08-02-2009, 05:49 PM انتقاد نمایندگان از پرداخت وام به بولیوی بدون مجوز مجلس
نمایندگان شهرهای ایلام و سمنان در اخطار قانون اساسی با اسناد به اصل 80 قانون اساسی نسبت به پرداخت وام 280 میلیون دلاری ایران به کشور بولیوی، بدون کسب اجازه از مجلس انتقاد کردند.
به گزارش خبرنگار پارلمانی مهر، مصطفی کواکبیان نماینده مردم سمنان در مجلس هشتم در اخطار قانون اساسی با استناد به اصل 80 قانون اساسی جمهوری اسلامی و ضمن قرائت این اصل اظهار داشت: شنیده ایم که دولت مبلغ 280 میلیون دلار معادل 280 میلیارد تومان به دولت بولیوی وام داده است ولی خبر نداریم که ما در مجلسیان موضوع را تصویب کرده باشیم.
وی افزود: براساس این اصل گرفتن و دادن وام های داخلی و خارجی باید به تصویب مجلس برسد ولی این مورد به تصویب نمایندگان نرسیده است.
نماینده سمنان در ادامه خطاب به هیئت رئیسه گفت: از شما می خواهیم در این زمینه به دولت تذکر دهید.
وی دراخطاری دیگربا استناد اصل 43 قانون اساسی تصریح کرد: تامین نیازهای اساسی از جمله مسکن، خوراک، پوشاک و ... جزء ضابطه جمهوری اسلامی است از زمانی که ما سرگرم بحث های انتخابات و دادگاه ها بودیم متوجه شدیم که قیمت گوشت و میوه در بازار به صورت سرسام آور افزایش یافته است.
کواکبیان خاطر نشان کرد: از شما می خواهم در این زمینه به وزیران تذکر اساسی بدهید چرا که ما نمایندگان نمی دانیم چه پاسخی به مردم بدهیم.
نماینده سمنان در ادامه خطاب به ابوترابی که ریاست بخشی از جلسه علنی امروز را بر عهده داشت گفت: با توجه به اینکه شما عضو کمیته بررسی حوادث اخیر هستید از شما می خواهم تا جلسه ای غیر علنی تشکیل دهید تا مسائل را بررسی و گزارش های آنها را دریافت کنیم.
ابوترابی فرد در پاسخ به وی گفت: در خصوص اخطار اول شما صحبت هایی شما را به دولت منعکس و پاسخ آنها را دریافت خواهیم کرد.
وی در پاسخ اخطار بعدی کواکبیان یادآور شد: تامین نیاز جامعه و توجه به ضوریات مردم باید مورد توجه دولت قرار گیرد و ما می خواهیم که به این مسائل توجه ویژه کنند.
ابوترابی فرد در پاسخ به وی ادامه داد: هیئت ویژه بررسی مسائل اخیر بر اساس تصمیم همکاران پیگیر موضوع هستند و طی جلسات متعدد به بررسی مسائل می پردازند که گزارش های آنها را به شما ارائه می کنیم.
همچنین داریوش قنبری نماینده ایلام در مجلس هشتم نیز در قالب اخطار مبتنی بر اصل 80 قانون اساسی جمهوری اسلامی از کمک 280 میلیون دلاری ایران به بولیوی انتقاد کرد و گفت: دولت باید برای اعطای چنین وام کلانی از مجلس اجازه می گرفت.
Motori 08-03-2009, 02:23 AM There are messages coming through Twitter saying the chant of "allah o akbar" on Sunday night was by far the loudest and most thunderous than ever before.
Tomorrow and Wednesday there will be wide spread protests while AN is going to be "Tanghyeh".
Shahin 08-03-2009, 02:33 AM [B][SIZE="4"]
According to the security official, the missing Americans were tourists hiking near Halabja and Ahmed Awaa. The four had traveled to Turkey, then entered the Kurdish region Tuesday through the Ibrahim Al-Khalil border point in Zakho, the official said. They visited the Kurdish cities of Irbil and Sulaimaniyah on Wednesday. The next day, three of them took a taxi to Ahmed Awaa where they told their companion that they planned to stay at a nearby resort, the official said.
The mountainous border area is a popular hiking destination and well-known for its thick growth of pistachio trees. .
Tourists, hikers !!!! I don't belive it one bit.
Motori 08-03-2009, 02:39 AM There are messages coming through Twitter saying the chant of "allah o akbar" on Sunday night was by far the loudest and most thunderous than ever before.
Tomorrow and Wednesday there will be wide spread protests while AN is going to be "Tanghyeh".
Sunday night in Tehran.
YouTube - tehran,s alloho akbar
Shahin 08-03-2009, 03:10 AM farda che shavad !!!
Bi-Honar 08-04-2009, 04:25 PM Iran's opposition calls for inauguration protests
Iranian opposition groups called for a new round of street protests to coincide with the inauguration ceremony for President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on Wednesday. The pro-reform movement claims the June 12 election declared for Ahmadinejad was fraudulent and opposition leader Mir Hossein Mousavi was the real winner.
Several pro-reform blogs and Web sites, including some linked to Mousavi, appealed for demonstrators to gather in front of parliament, where Ahmadinejad is to be officially sworn in for a second term. They also called for protests at main markets in other cities around Iran. Any protests will almost certainly be met by a heavy security presence, as the government has harshly cracked down on any opposition demonstrations over the disputed election.
At least 30 people have died in the unrest that followed the vote, according to figures from a parliamentary investigation, and hundreds have been detained. Human rights groups believe the death toll is likely far higher. Ahmadinejad also faces discontent from fellow conservatives in Iran's ruling hierarchy over accusations that some of those detained in the unrest have been mistreated.
Ahmadinejad last month also opened a brief _ but potentially disruptive _ confrontation with the supreme leader's ruling theocracy in July by refusing to drop his top deputy, Esfandiar Rahim Mashai. Mashai had angered conservatives last year when he made friendly comments toward Israelis. But the president eventually relented and dropped Mashai.
Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei formally endorsed Ahmadinejad for second term as president on Monday. Though both men were smiling, it was a noticeably cooler reception than four years ago, when Khamenei allowed Ahmadinejad to kiss his hand and then drew him close and kissed him on both cheeks. Still Khamenei has firmly backed Ahmadinejad as the election winner from the beginning of the dispute and continued to give him support.
When the president takes his oath of office on Wednesday, it will be before a parliament where many pro-reform lawmakers have echoed the claims of fraud in the election. The calls for more street protests present the government with a serious challenge. It is eager to choke off the protest movement, but a harsh response by security forces could ignite another sustained wave of unrest. Sporadic clashes broke out in north Tehran late Monday after security forces boosted patrols, witnesses said.
Many of Tuesday's protest appeals included instructions to shift the rallies to main squares if the security presence is too strong at the first sites. They called for key opposition figures _ including Mousavi and his pro-reform election rival, Mahdi Karroubi _ to join the marches. It was not immediately clear whether they would attend.
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