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I'm sure his tenant is going to be shocked to see that note on the door! For God's sake, the guy's living in Iran now!!!

I'm sure his tenant is going to be shocked to see that note on the door! For God's sake, the guy's living in Iran now!!!
Mr, G.
majority of this guy's fan base are young Iranians mostly disenchanted with the barbaric regime. Why not think about them a bit?
Aren't they the only reason where Ghotbi is at this moment?
He could get an affidavit from a physician proving he was sick that dark day in Iranian history.
Just listen to the "BOO" next time he shows up in an stadium.

He really F^%ed up!! Poeple were not surpized to see MK, Rezazadeh and other low lives, but seeing Ghotbi there was a cowardly act of an opportunistic person that will never be forgotten.

Shame on you.

I was suprised about it bc of the green the player wore, Its hard for me to think he'd sell out after that, maybe they wanted him to get behind An&Goh bc of the fact he allowed the green ? Maybe the green wasnt approved by ghotbi, but an individual act done by the players ? I dont know, he just lost his popularity, something that wasnt necessary, in the end football is the peoples game ...

I am sure people were surprised to see him there but I am a little dismayed at the reaction to it. We need to stop and think whether someone in such an important and popular position was taken there or went on his own accord. What usually happens in Iran at such offices is that they get an order (bakhshnameh) 'requiring' that employees have to attend certain events. For example, about 25 years ago my dad who worked for Edaare Daraayee was taken to Jamaran from the office to sit and listen to Khomeini talk. Now my dad never liked Khomeini but he had to go. I am not saying this is exactly what happened here, but something similar is very likely. Ghotbi may have been caught up in this so late that he didn't have time to make up any excuses and just accepted.

Also consider that not everyone inside Iran is aware of all the deaths and murders and unrest as we are outside Iran. I know this because my own parents haven't heard about even half the stories that we hear here.

What I see happening now is that because the uprising is going quiet, people like Ghotbi are becoming easy targets, whereas they shouldn't be. They shouldn't even be talked about for attending a ceremony under circumstances we are not even aware of!

Anyway, us Iranians usually tend to go overboard with our love or our criticisms. This is exactly why we get caught up in sticky situations. We don't stop and think before reacting.

Also consider that not everyone inside Iran is aware of all the deaths and murders and unrest as we are outside Iran.

I find this hard to believe, how can anyone (at least in Tehran) not know what's going on???!


Anyway, us Iranians usually tend to go overboard with our love or our criticisms. This is exactly why we get caught up in sticky situations. We don't stop and think before reacting.

And Behrooz jan, looks like you are doing the exact same thing. You certainly are entitled to your opinion, but how can there be any excuse for what he did? He knowingly chose to side with a lying, criminal regime, as far as I am concerned there is no excuse for his participation in that circus.

Arti jan, I don't think I am going overboard. Quite the opposite. What I am saying is let's give him the benefit of the doubt. None of us know the circumstances under which he went to the ceremony. Surely there is room for doubt? specially considering that this regime is very good at propaganda and does horrible things to those who oppose them, specially under such threats to their existence. Look what they have done to those who till very recently were one of their own.

I was suprised about it bc of the green the player wore, Its hard for me to think he'd sell out after that, maybe they wanted him to get behind An&Goh bc of the fact he allowed the green ? Maybe the green wasnt approved by ghotbi, but an individual act done by the players ? I dont know, he just lost his popularity, something that wasnt necessary, in the end football is the peoples game ...

Kasra jan, I don't know why you give credit to Ghotbi for what the players did. They certainly didn't need any permission from Ghotbi to wear the wristbands.

I was suprised about it bc of the green the player wore, Its hard for me to think he'd sell out after that, maybe they wanted him to get behind An&Goh bc of the fact he allowed the green ? Maybe the green wasnt approved by ghotbi, but an individual act done by the players ? I dont know, he just lost his popularity, something that wasnt necessary, in the end football is the peoples game ...

Kasra jan, I don't know why you give credit to Ghotbi for what the players did. They certainly didn't need any permission from Ghotbi to wear the wristbands.

Like I said It might have been individual, it might not have been,I just dont know.

I remember at ISP someone sent a fax ,adressed to ghotbi, to the hotel ghotbi and the players were staying asking for the players to were some green or maybe some black, the green armbands the next day might have been inspired by that fax, might not have been, I thought Ghotbi might have adressed the team, reading the fax out loud in the dressing room. I have no idea whether they did it with ghotbi's knowing or not, I think I wanted to believe that he knew and had a part in it by allowing it, I dont know now though. But I wont judge him on something I dont know.

We can all tell him to give up his job or his life for that matter, but maybe if you guys were in his situation you would have done the same thing. It may seem selfish and it probably is, but most people are like that. If its by free will that he did this, having nothing to do with his job wich I doubt, then fuck him, but I dont have that much insight and neither do any of you.

I am trying to remain neutral, altough earlier he gained my respect when I thought he had something to do with the green, the respect is now gone, but I havent switched to hatred yet.

Arti jan, I don't think I am going overboard. Quite the opposite. What I am saying is let's give him the benefit of the doubt. None of us know the circumstances under which he went to the ceremony. Surely there is room for doubt? specially considering that this regime is very good at propaganda and does horrible things to those who oppose them, specially under such threats to their existence. Look what they have done to those who till very recently were one of their own.

not in a country when An thugs are killing women & children down to 12 yrs old... noone should ahve any benifit of doubt. You gotta pick your side. How come other celebreties managed that but not Ghotbi?

Shajarian lives in iran. he was out pretty quick to as IRIB not to broadcast his music. everyone should do their part. acting like they donno about shit that goes on in Iran right now is exactly why we're in this deep shit of crises. cuz ppl have turned a blind eye as long as they get to go on with their daily lives & have their stores & income.

enough is enough!

Ghotbi & rezazadeh are lowlife vatanforoosh. theres no doubt & excuses.

Toofan jaan, I take your point.

But my concern is that people like Ghotbi are becoming the focus of the attention instead of the real culprits. It's almost as if those who have failed in their fight against the regime are using people like Ghotbi because their hands don't reach anybody else.
Ghotbi is being victimised unfairly. He isn't and never was the target and he shouldn't be. He is not responsible for the death of Neda and others who were murdered. But these videos and these actions and these words are making him somehow responsible.

People who want rid of this regime have to be very very careful who they take their fight to if they want it to stay on track.

Toofan jaan, I take your point.

But my concern is that people like Ghotbi are becoming the focus of the attention instead of the real culprits. It's almost as if those who have failed in their fight against the regime are using people like Ghotbi because their hands don't reach anybody else.
Ghotbi is being victimised unfairly. He isn't and never was the target and he shouldn't be. He is not responsible for the death of Neda and others who were murdered. But these videos and these actions and these words are making him somehow responsible.

People who want rid of this regime have to be very very careful who they take their fight to if they want it to stay on track.

no worries...the real killers are known (Nedas kilelr ID card is all over the net), the people behind are know (AN, khamenei & his thugs).
noone is saying Ghotbi killed anyone. Ghotbi is a celeb. it has upsides & downsides. If a guy in your baghali is a AN supporter, you do your part not to buy stuff from him. IF the head coach of your national team is a AN supporter, you should let him know that he's betraying his country & all his fans. I was a big Ghotbi fan myself, but not anymore. he's waaay down there with mayeli Kohan, Rezazadeh & other vatanforoosh.

Mr, G.
majority of this guy's fan base are young Iranians mostly disenchanted with the barbaric regime. Why not think about them a bit?
Aren't they the only reason where Ghotbi is at this moment?
He could get an affidavit from a physician proving he was sick that dark day in Iranian history.
Just listen to the "BOO" next time he shows up in an stadium.

Oh, I agree with you whole heartedly Rasoul jaan. I actually thought Ghotbi was a sell-out and a low-life when he accepted the position in the midst of all the violence and killings. That was way before he showed up to put a stamp of approval on AN. I was simply drawing attention to the fact that the intended receipient of this "letter" or what you want to call it, does not live at that address. :dunno:

Behrooz jaan, I can very well take your argument about Ghotbi and extend it to the Basijis and Lebas Shakhsis. They don't really have a choice either and do what they do as its a requirement of their job - much like Ghotbi's attendance of the ceremony would be his job requirement. While Basiji and LS's are not role models for thousands of Iranians, nor do million of Iranians pin their hopes on them in any way, Ghotbi is the exact opposite and with that added "celebrity" status one must shoulder additional responsibilities IMHO.

As Ali would say Ghotbi was nothing but an anal-yzer before he came to Iran and I sure hope it is people like him that will anal-yzed and tortured from this point on instead of young Iranian women looking for the least amount of respect and freedom.

Ghotbi was nothing but an anal-yzer before he came to Iran ....

In my heart he lost the "yzer" part, his legacy towards Iran is nothing more than anal at this point.:chair: :piss:

Like I said It might have been individual, it might not have been,I just dont know.

I remember at ISP someone sent a fax ,adressed to ghotbi, to the hotel ghotbi and the players were staying asking for the players to were some green or maybe some black, the green armbands the next day might have been inspired by that fax, might not have been, I thought Ghotbi might have adressed the team, reading the fax out loud in the dressing room. I have no idea whether they did it with ghotbi's knowing or not, I think I wanted to believe that he knew and had a part in it by allowing it, I dont know now though. But I wont judge him on something I dont know.

We can all tell him to give up his job or his life for that matter, but maybe if you guys were in his situation you would have done the same thing. It may seem selfish and it probably is, but most people are like that. If its by free will that he did this, having nothing to do with his job wich I doubt, then fuck him, but I dont have that much insight and neither do any of you.

I am trying to remain neutral, altough earlier he gained my respect when I thought he had something to do with the green, the respect is now gone, but I havent switched to hatred yet.

Well, even if he knew about this he doesn't get any credit for it, because he himself didn't have a wristband. And in any case it was not something that the coach should allow or disallow it.

Sure thats true, Gn actually spoke out, eventough I wasnt a big fan of Gn the coach, as a person that meant something, Ghotbi could have done the same, but he chose for himself, short term, but in the end he lost everything he had for him ... his popularity.

Like I said It might have been individual, it might not have been,I just dont know.

I remember at ISP someone sent a fax ,adressed to ghotbi, to the hotel ghotbi and the players were staying asking for the players to were some green or maybe some black, the green armbands the next day might have been inspired by that fax, might not have been, I thought Ghotbi might have adressed the team, reading the fax out loud in the dressing room. I have no idea whether they did it with ghotbi's knowing or not, I think I wanted to believe that he knew and had a part in it by allowing it, I dont know now though. But I wont judge him on something I dont know.

We can all tell him to give up his job or his life for that matter, but maybe if you guys were in his situation you would have done the same thing. It may seem selfish and it probably is, but most people are like that. If its by free will that he did this, having nothing to do with his job wich I doubt, then fuck him, but I dont have that much insight and neither do any of you.

I am trying to remain neutral, altough earlier he gained my respect when I thought he had something to do with the green, the respect is now gone, but I havent switched to hatred yet.

Commander!!
Is his job really that important? He is in entertainment biz for heaven sake.
His job is directly related to his fan base which he lost majority of them with inyenyt.
And under no circumstances I will accept his life could be in danger if he didn't attend that moronic "Tanghyeh" and could be considered as champion of the hearts instead of a traitor who he is.

Sure thats true, Gn actually spoke out, eventough I wasnt a big fan of Gn the coach, as a person that meant something, Ghotbi could have done the same, but he chose for himself, short term, but in the end he lost everything he had for him ... his popularity.

I was not a GN fan either. I always argued with Kaz about him. But after what GN said, I reluctantly thought highly of him.

LOL now Alila is getting apology after apology saying he's been right about Ghobti all along :D

Seriously I first thought it was an selfish decision, but it really isnt in the end cause now he lost the biggest thing he had going for him, his popularity. I am now doubting whether he will remain TM coach for long bc of it regardless of sporting achievement, he'll be booed every game I reckon and attacked for every small mistake, wich might have been forgiven in the past. He cant do alot now, maybe if he stayed long enough and won Asian cup. He could also renounce backing AN but that would be very unlikely and he would prolly get fired for it, damn he fucked up for himself.

LOL now Alila is getting apology after apology saying he's been right about Ghobti all along :D


LMAO. It looks like someone came out a winner out of this whole mess ;)

LMAO. It looks like someone came out a winner out of this whole mess ;)

alila needs to be incarcerated, dragged into Main Square of the town and beaten by heavy construction equipment.:D:D:D

Another pic. of Kafshin Ghooti in Tanghyeh ceremony.