I don't know if you guys are following the news, but rumours surfaced on Monday that Supreme Nacho had slipped into a coma or died by Michael Ledeen (he's the one who started the rumour in 2007 which endedup being a false) alarm. Guardian, Bild and other news media have now published the "rumour" and there has been no official press release by the IR on the issue since Tuesday.

It is noteworthy that Iran's ambassador to the UN denied the 2007 rumour within 24 hours. Supreme Nacho has not been seen since October 7th, fueling speculation about the accuracy of this particular report. NE reportedlt clashed with people at Vanak Sq. yesterday for honking their horns, celebrating the "news".

A few other strange things have also happened in the past couple of days which may or may not be related, but definitely worth mentioning. Both Tehran Times and Iran Daily have not been published since Tuesday. Also, yesterday ILNA released an "urgent" news release from NE saying that both major roads connecting Tehran to the North will be closed on Friday afternoon and evening (one going to Chaloos and the other through Roodehen). No reason was given, but the timing of it and the way it was released is definitely suspect. All schools were also announced closed for Wednesday out the blue and there were rumours that they'd be closed today, but that rumour was later denied by the ministry.

Also, there are some other rumours circulating that Rafi had "told" Supreme Nacho in a letter within the last few days that the SL rold should be on a 4 year rotation rather than indefinite. I don't know if the shark gave the wolf a heart-attack or what's going on, but all Iranian news agencies that I normally visist have had very little to write in the past two days.

If the rumour does end up being true, is this good or bad for Iran at the moment is the subject for a great discussion I think. Who will fill the void, is this the end of the regime or the beginning of a full coup? What do you guys think?

khoda koneh rast bashe!

So the Pig flew finally catched up with the original owners, huh? :D

Yeah heard about it earlier, I wont believe it untill its official, I dont know whether it would be good or not bt I dont think its a bad thing for those guys to die off, the bad hygene is asking for it, anyway dont considerate it true yet, dont get too happy about it yet.

From Peiknet (note: I have actually seen Khamenei's will published and was wondering about that too):

احضار فوری 3 پزشک به بیت رهبری


در روزهای گذشته که متن وصیت نامه علی خامنه ای در ماجرای حمله به فیضیه قم در سال 1342 وسیعا تکثیر و پخش شده، اخباری نیز در برخی محافل سیاسی بر سر زبان هاست که می تواند بی ارتباط با پخش وصیت نامه سال 42 خامنه ای نباشد.

ریشه این اخبار باز می گردد به احضار فوری سه پزشک مخصوص به بیت علی خامنه ای. بموجب این اخبار، گفته می شود شنبه شب گذشته دکتر نفی علیمرادی، دکتر حسین آل شمس و پرفسور شهاب الدین مراغه‌ای برای معاینه علی خامنه ای به بیت رهبری احضار شده اند. کار معاینه نزدیک به یکساعت بطول انجامیده و متعاقب آن، هر سه پزشک توصیه کرده اند تمام ملاقات های حکومتی بیمار قطع شود و تنها اهل خانه برای امور شخصی و خانوادگی با وی در تماس باشند

Che shir too shiri beshavad...
Khodaya marge Aajel nasibe rahbar befarma!!

Usually when one of the higher ranking I.S. officials is about to go to hell, they ask "people" to pray for him. Once they annouce something in those lines you can be sure supreme taco has already entered the gates of hell.

I think they wil certainly install marshal-law when he is dead. I also wonder where are they going to bury his filthy corps? :piss:

It may be just arumor started by IRI, to change the momentum before 13 aban.
Or at least get me thinking, WOW, che shavad.....be haminesh razzi hastim. It could be total sepah takeover ( completion of coup), or another extremist but aghab oftadeh atr , may become supreme............

anyways , he has some words of vasiat :

فراز‌هایی‌ از وصیت نامه سید علی‌ خامنه‌ای


به دنبال خبرهای غیر موثق و در عین حال مسرت بخش عروج ملکوتی مقام معظم رهبری به آسمان گوشه‌هایی‌ از وصیت نامه سیاسی عبادی آیت الله خامنه‌ای در اختیار رسانه‌ها قرار گرفت:

اینک که با تنی علیل، روحی‌ نا آرام و مغزی معیوب از خدمت خواهران و برادران عزیز مرخص میشوم جا دارد چند نکته را یاد آوری کنم.

حال که اینجناب به عنوان ولی‌ زمین و زمان جام مرگ را مینوشم و در کما دست و پا زنان رهسپار دیار ابدیت می‌باشم به دشمنان انقلاب و عوامل صهیونیست‌ها هشدار میدهم که روح خبیث اینجانب در آن دنیا هم دست از سرتان بر نخواهد داشت. باشد که هر روز در مقبره من بمبی منفجر شود و لرزه‌ای بر اندام مستکبرین جهان بیندازد.

از ملت بزرگ ایران می‌خواهم که با شنیدن خبر مرگ من به خیابان نریزند و با پخش شیرینی‌ و دست افشانی و پایکوبی در خیابان‌ها ما را بیشتر از این ضایع نکنند.

پس از مرگم به مجتبی و محمود کاری نداشته باشید و بگذارید هر کاری دوست داشتند بکنند.

ایام ارتحال من را با رفتن به شمال و عشق و حال تبدیل به دوران لهو و لعب نکنید.

پس از مرگم از آموزش علوم انسانی‌، مهندسی‌، فنی‌، پزشکی‌ و هر چیزی که باعث بالا رفتن شعورتان میشود پرهیز کنید.

هر ساله در سالروز عروج ملکوتی من به مخالفین نظام تجاوز کنید.

با توجه به علاقه قلبی اینجانب به دود و منقل در اطراف مرقد مطهر ما به کشت تنباکو بپردازید و پس از تبدیل پول فروش آن به بمب، قاطی‌ محموله مواد غذایی به غزه و لبنان بفرستید.

در پایان می‌خواستم یک سری فحش نثار کشور‌های غربی کنم که به خاطر حضور زن و بچه در این حوالی از ذکر این بخش معذور می‌باشم و ان شا الله تلافی آن را به محض حضور در عالم ارواح بر سر اجداد خبیثشان در میاورم.

گفتنی است که ادامه این وصیت نامه پس از مردن واقعنی مقام معظم رهبری به استحضار علاقمندان خواهد رسید.

It doesn't matter if Khamenei dies or not because when you think about it he doesn't wield the power he once had.
In today's Iran sepah has the first and last word on almost everything. They even go over Rahbar's head and control him. Sepah is responsible for the coup as well of course and they will run the rule over the next leader of IR, whoever that maybe.

I'm not sure if Khamenei's death at this point would necessarily be a good thing. I fear the Sepah and the Mesbah/Jannati gang will take the opportunity to declare a "state of emergency" and use that as a pretext to execute those currently in jail, imprison many who are currently out, and finish off the green movement once and for all. It will probably give them a freer hand to use lethal force on the streets too.

A weakened Khaemenei is probably a better prospect for the time being.

I'm not sure if Khamenei's death at this point would necessarily be a good thing. I fear the Sepah and the Mesbah/Jannati gang will take the opportunity to declare a "state of emergency" and use that as a pretext to execute those currently in jail, imprison many who are currently out, and finish off the green movement once and for all. It will probably give them a freer hand to use lethal force on the streets too.

A weakened Khaemenei is probably a better prospect for the time being.Thats what I fear too. but on the other hand they will have the following obstacles:

1) possibilities of the lower ranks of Sepah and Artesh (supporters of green)coming out
2) Rafsanjani fighting them head on with whatever clout he has left.
3) Osoolgaras like Ali Motahari, Rezaei, Ghalibaf and maybe even Ali Larijani turning against them.

They will be very isolated and a lot of influential conservative figures are still supporting them merely because of Khamenei. But this said, I dont think only taking away the AN/Mesbah/Janati gang away from IR is what the people gave their life for.

آخرین خبر,آخرین خبر

پزشکان از رهبری قطع امید کرده و اعلان نموده اند که ایشان هیچوقت نمی میرد

:)

LMAO @ Aram's post. That's gold. :clap:

On a serious note, I tend to agree with AZ on this. Despite all the big talk, Sepah is seriously wekeaned and has been on a completely defencive posture since the elections. I think they've hit rock bottom and this is probably the lowest and weakest point since their formation. They are daily shufflings in the ranks and rumours of serious internal conflict brewing, often in the form of daily arguments or worse in different headquarters. Sazegara also hinted at this a few days ago on his daily videos. If there's any time for Sepah to be dismantled, I think this is it.

As far as the gap left in the "leadership" role, I don't think it will be filled by the likes of Jannati or even Khatami (Ahmad). Both of them have gone way overboard on their recent Friday sermons and their extremely divisive, hostile and provokative acomments have been catering to a very small and fanatic fraction of the society, clergy and even Conservative politicians. As such, they have completely alienated themselves and lost their support base (much like AN). If anyone's going to take Supreme Nacho's place, it's going to be Rafi. He's the only one who has been pushing this "vahdate melli" phrase, the only one the Maraaje would likely back and the only one who has "some" support from the people, through his loose affiliation with the Green Movement. It would be absolute suicide for the regime to select anyone else and if that happens, the end would be even closer than you think - i.e. this is a win-win situation for the people.

I know you guys aren't big subscribers to this "God" concept, but at the end of the day "God" (the concept) was the cohesive factor that brought the Shah down, it was the single most important concept that made Kourosh great and is the only uninterrupted and unstoppable tactic used by the Green Movement since the election (i.e. the Allah-o-Akbar on the rooftops) - not to mention the founding factor in American democracy. As such, if we stop looking at God as a limited "entity" as described by Abrahamic texts and start looking at it simply as a GRAND CONCEPT the empowers people and one that takes power away from religion (as describe by Thomas Jefferson) there is absolutely no force that can stop it. And one way or another, this force of Good WILL triumph over evil, when the directed and collective will and strength of a society can finally tap into it - which I think has already happened in Iran.

I'm not sure if Khamenei's death at this point would necessarily be a good thing. I fear the Sepah and the Mesbah/Jannati gang will take the opportunity to declare a "state of emergency" and use that as a pretext to execute those currently in jail, imprison many who are currently out, and finish off the green movement once and for all. It will probably give them a freer hand to use lethal force on the streets too.

A weakened Khaemenei is probably a better prospect for the time being.

Wow. IZ is here too! That is great. Hope to see you more often.
I share most of abovementioned concerns, but i'm doubtgul about the last sentence.

LMAO @ Aram's post. That's gold. :clap:

On a serious note, I tend to agree with AZ on this. Despite all the big talk, Sepah is seriously wekeaned and has been on a completely defencive posture since the elections. I think they've hit rock bottom and this is probably the lowest and weakest point since their formation. They are daily shufflings in the ranks and rumours of serious internal conflict brewing, often in the form of daily arguments or worse in different headquarters. Sazegara also hinted at this a few days ago on his daily videos. If there's any time for Sepah to be dismantled, I think this is it.

As far as the gap left in the "leadership" role, I don't think it will be filled by the likes of Jannati or even Khatami (Ahmad). Both of them have gone way overboard on their recent Friday sermons and their extremely divisive, hostile and provokative acomments have been catering to a very small and fanatic fraction of the society, clergy and even Conservative politicians. As such, they have completely alienated themselves and lost their support base (much like AN). If anyone's going to take Supreme Nacho's place, it's going to be Rafi. He's the only one who has been pushing this "vahdate melli" phrase, the only one the Maraaje would likely back and the only one who has "some" support from the people, through his loose affiliation with the Green Movement. It would be absolute suicide for the regime to select anyone else and if that happens, the end would be even closer than you think - i.e. this is a win-win situation for the people.

I know you guys aren't big subscribers to this "God" concept, but at the end of the day "God" (the concept) was the cohesive factor that brought the Shah down, it was the single most important concept that made Kourosh great and is the only uninterrupted and unstoppable tactic used by the Green Movement since the election (i.e. the Allah-o-Akbar on the rooftops) - not to mention the founding factor in American democracy. As such, if we stop looking at God as a limited "entity" as described by Abrahamic texts and start looking at it simply as a GRAND CONCEPT the empowers people and one that takes power away from religion (as describe by Thomas Jefferson) there is absolutely no force that can stop it. And one way or another, this force of Good WILL triumph over evil, when the directed and collective will and strength of a society can finally tap into it - which I think has already happened in Iran.
BH jan but concept of somebody being practically god (Valih faghih- with all his constitution of powers) is not healthy regardless of who holds that post. Yes Rafsanjani would be a suitable choice (a more liberal like khatami even better) for that post as I believe he would create a base for real reforms to start - I guess with a deal to leave him and his family alone lol...but bottom line is a system where one person can have the powers that Vali Faghih does will always leave it exposed for abuse.

If IR wants to survive and evolve into a system accepted amongst the masses, this change in its constitution must be made - either the post of VF eliminated or have a symbolic role.....

BH jan but concept of somebody being practically god (Valih faghih- with all his constitution of powers) is not healthy regardless of who holds that post.

Exactly my point bro. The concept that there's a single entity above all else and that there's no other "God" like entities (i.e. all of mankind, including prophets, messengers, clergy, etc. are at the same level), automatically dismisses VF and any other person or group that does or will make such claims in the future. IMHO, we (as a nation) have not fully realized the potential of such an empowering concept and keep falling for every Tom, Dick and Harry (well, mostly Dicks ;)) that tell us otherwise. Although, I do see the Green Movement tapping into this more and more everyday.

I found these words From Thomas Jefferson, engraved in his memorial in DC very profound (compliments of Rasoul jaan who took us there), where he clearly makes a distinction between God & clergy and how the concpt of God empowers him to to free man from tyranny:

"The returning good sense of our country threatens abortion to their hopes, & they [the clergy] believe that any portion of power confided to me, will be exerted in opposition to their schemes. And they believe rightly; for I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man. But this is all they have to fear from me: & enough too in their opinion, & this is the cause of their printing lying pamphlets against me. . ."


Yes Rafsanjani would be a suitable choice (a more liberal like khatami even better) for that post as I believe he would create a base for real reforms to start - I guess with a deal to leave him and his family alone lol...but bottom line is a system where one person can have the powers that Vali Faghih does will always leave it exposed for abuse.

If IR wants to survive and evolve into a system accepted amongst the masses, this change in its constitution must be made - either the post of VF eliminated or have a symbolic role.....


I agree with you completely. There's no more room (and there hasn't been for 30 years) in Iran for so much power being given to a single person. The concept of "VF" (individual or group in power) is in fact contradictory to the main principle of a "Republic" (i.e. distribution of power) and therefore the Iranian Constitution, as it stands, is neither Islamic (i.e. submission to God and God alone) nor one that describes a republic. Iranians are only now, reaching the political and social maturity to question this as a nation, and IMHO once these types of realizations made in any society, the system will be "forced" to conform to this new belief system, one way or another.

Wow. IZ is here too! That is great. Hope to see you more often.
I share most of abovementioned concerns, but i'm doubtgul about the last sentence.
Mokhlesim Aram jan.:)

Agha Shojaa on the other site has been bringing up old threads by General Hezbolian to embarrass him. Reading through them, I can see you were one of the very first to expose that piece of dog shit.:)

It's great to be reading your posts again my friend.

Thats what I fear too. but on the other hand they will have the following obstacles:

1) possibilities of the lower ranks of Sepah and Artesh (supporters of green)coming out
2) Rafsanjani fighting them head on with whatever clout he has left.
3) Osoolgaras like Ali Motahari, Rezaei, Ghalibaf and maybe even Ali Larijani turning against them.

They will be very isolated and a lot of influential conservative figures are still supporting them merely because of Khamenei. But this said, I dont think only taking away the AN/Mesbah/Janati gang away from IR is what the people gave their life for.

1)Abed jan, I agree with number 1 on your list.
2)As for number 2 and Rafsanjani, after recent events and how once again he sided with establishment, I don't think there are any doubt about this MF's coning character. He (and his family) are deeply rooted (financially, politically and otherwise) in this regime. Raf will never wants fundamental changes in this regime.
3) Are you kidding me? What Osoolgara? I don't know much about Motahari but the others you mentioned are corrupt and part of this regime to the core! If we ever expect Rezae or Larijani take a step to help our people, then we are truly f&^%ed!

p.s., like many of you, I don't believe a dead supreme taco at this point serves the cause.....not to mention I don't want the MF to take the easy way out.

1)Abed jan, I agree with number 1 on your list.
2)As for number 2 and Rafsanjani, after recent events and how once again he sided with establishment, I don't think there are any doubt about this MF's coning character. He (and his family) are deeply rooted (financially, politically and otherwise) in this regime. Raf will never wants fundamental changes in this regime.
3) Are you kidding me? What Osoolgara? I don't know much about Motahari but the others you mentioned are corrupt and part of this regime to the core! If we ever expect Rezae or Larijani take a step to help our people, then we are truly f&^%ed!

p.s., like many of you, I don't believe a dead supreme taco at this point serves the cause.....not to mention I don't want the MF to take the easy way out.
Thanks Arty jan for your reply.

We have to distinguish between "fighting the coup" and "being part of an either more reformed IR or a new regime altogether in the future".

As for fighting the coup I think Raf can have a positive role in this as the animosity the coup gang have with him, is not any less whatsoever than that they have with Khatami, Mousavi, Karroubi and co...In fact it is under the coup regime that he and his family are threatened.

Re the osoolgaras, i am not saying the above mentioned are good guys but I reckon they would at least try to stop the coup gang turning Iran into a complete military state as IZ mentioned.

Yeah, I'm also a firm believer that we should not refuse help from any member of the Conservative camp that will move Iran one step, no matter how small, toward the end goal - at least on a temporary basis. I don't think alienating these people at this juncture in time, when even the smallest step is being resisted, is healthy or constructive for the Green Movement. At some point, some of these people will switch sides and be absorbed into the movement's main goal, but even Mousavi and the rest of the Reformists are never going to go as far as they need to IMHO. Afterall, they have been and continue to be a part of this "nezam" and avid supporters of Khomeini and the "Islamic Revolution". Having said that, there's no reason to ride along them for as long as it serves our purpose.

BTW, Supreme Nach has apparently put out a press release condemning the bombing in Sistan. Pretty strange that he has still not been seen (to the best of my knowledge) for almost 2 weeks. I would have thought he'd make a TV appearance or at least have a meeting with some people on this very important issue. I don't think the reports of him being "very sick" are exaggerated at this point, even if he's not dead (I haven't seen him use the word "injaaneb" before, when referring to himself):

ايلنا:حضرت آيت‌الله خامنه‌اي رهبر معظّم انقلاب اسلامي در پيامي با تبريك و تسليت شهادت ده‌ها نفر از برادران شيعه و سنّي و تعدادي از فرماندهان سپاه بويژه سرداران شهيد شوشتري و محمدزاده تأكيد كردند: دست قدرتمند نظام اسلامي، متجاوزان به جان و مال و امنيت مردم را به سزاي اعمال خيانتكارانه‌ي آنها خواهد رسانيد.
به گزارش ايلنا متن اين پيام به اين شرح است:
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
جنايت تروريست‌هاي خونخوار در بلوچستان چهره‌ي اهريمني دشمنان امنيت و وحدت را كه از سوي سازمان‌هاي جاسوسي برخي دولت‌هاي استكباري حمايت مي‌شوند، بيش از پيش آشكار ساخت. به شهادت رساندن مؤمنان فداكاري همچون سردار شجاع و با اخلاص شهيد نورعلي شوشتري و ديگر فرماندهان آن بخش از كشور و دهها نفر از برادران شيعه و سنّي و فارس و بلوچ، جنايتي در حق ملت ايران و بخصوص منطقه‌ي بلوچستان است كه اين انسان‌هاي شريف، همت خود را بر امنيت و آبادي آن نهاده و مخلصانه براي آن تلاش ميكردند.
دشمنان بدانند كه اين ددمنشي‌ها نخواهد توانست عزم راسخ ملت و مسئولان را در پيمودن راه عزت و افتخار كه همان راه اسلام و مبارزه با جنود شيطان است، سست كند و به وحدت و همدلي مذاهب و اقوام ايراني خدشه وارد سازد.
مزدوران حقير و پليد استكبار نيز يقين داشته باشند كه دست قدرتمند نظام اسلامي در دفاع از امنيت آن منطقه‌ مظلوم و آن مردم وفادار، لحظه‌ئي كوتاهي نخواهد كرد و متجاوزان به جان و مال و امنيت مردم را به سزاي اعمال خيانتكارانه خواهد رسانيد.
اينجانب شهادت جان باختگان اين حادثه بويژه سرداران شهيد شوشتري و محمدزاده و ديگر پاسداران عزيز را به خانواده هاي محترم آنان تبريك و تسليت گفته، علوّ درجات آنان و شفاي عاجل آسيب ديدگان را از خداوند متعال مسألت مينمايم.
سيّدعلي خامنه‌اي

BH jan apparently he met with AN and Senegal's president

Mokhlesim Aram jan.:)

Agha Shojaa on the other site has been bringing up old threads by General Hezbolian to embarrass him. Reading through them, I can see you were one of the very first to expose that piece of dog shit.:)

It's great to be reading your posts again my friend.

IZ

bandeye khoda , GP and his alter egos, was (were) very clear on his intentions when he was first given birth by REZA.
His signature at the time was "when you talk to the idiots, talk like an idiot"
He ( his charachter as GP ,the opposition leader) operated based on these parametes. He couldn't have said it more clearly why he was there and what he was about to do.Few of us noticed it, but were punished by those gulible ones that we were closed minded, had low level tolerance for opposing views,and full of conspiracy theories.
He was actually encouraged and his flames fanned by many of those who are complaining today. I guess ISP top people, didn't want to take this situation seriously, partyially because having a dalghak around was bringing ratings :)...! Until it grew even too big for them!

any how, is great to have you around here. Looking forward to your insightful posts. Hope some other good ISP people like agha shoja, Foul penalt,mashdi,... will post here too.
bache tehroon posts here from time to time, but I wish he would post more often.Going back to many moons ago,I have always been in love with his sensitive soul and direct methodology of dealing with issues. His sense of emotionalism reminds me of the noble human qualities that are at miss , as we go forward.

BH jan apparently he met with AN and Senegal's president

Yeah, just saw the pictures. I zoomed in to see if they may have been photoshopped, but it's hard to tell. What a clown that Senegalese guy is though! He's sitting there, leaned back with his legs open, as if expecting AN or the Supreme Nacho to kneel down and give him some major Dastmal Yazdi service!!! ;) Be koja reseed in mamlekat! :(

I'll post the picture if I find it again.


IZ

bandeye khoda , GP and his alter egos, was (were) very clear on his intentions when he was first given birth by REZA.
His signature at the time was "when you talk to the idiots, talk like an idiot"
He ( his charachter as GP ,the opposition leader) operated based on these parametes. He couldn't have said it more clearly why he was there and what he was about to do.Few of us noticed it, but were punished by those gulible ones that we were closed minded, had low level tolerance for opposing views,and full of conspiracy theories.
He was actually encouraged and his flames fanned by many of those who are complaining today. I guess ISP top people, didn't want to take this situation seriously, partyially because having a dalghak around was bringing ratings :)...! Until it grew even too big for them!

any how, is great to have you around here. Looking forward to your insightful posts. Hope some other good ISP people like agha shoja, Foul penalt,mashdi,... will post here too.
bache tehroon posts here from time to time, but I wish he would post more often.Going back to many moons ago,I have always been in love with his sensitive soul and direct methodology of dealing with issues. His sense of emotionalism reminds me of the noble human qualities that are at miss , as we go forward.

Aram jaan, I'm sure you recall that I was actually one of the most vocal and pain-in-the-butt people on ISP at the time, having my share of heated exchanges with yourself, Hamid, IZ, and even Rasoul - all of whom I now consider noble gentlemen of great moral and ethical values and great friends.

I'm only bringing this up now, because I have not talked to you and IZ about this issue directly (as I have done with Rasoul & Hamid during our trip) and although I know neither of you are the type to hold grudges (nor am I), I think it's good to discuss the issue to at least to know why it happened.

My problem at the time was not that you guys were picking on the likes of Sarjookhe or his gang. It was the "polarity" issue that you mentioned earlier in this thread and that people who just strolled into the politics forum like myself - not being as versed in Iranian politics as the rest of you - were forced to migrate to either of these poles, rather than remaining in the middle, hearing the arguments and making an informed decision on our own time and free will. Frankly, I think the polarity issue was MUCH wose at the time and out of all the people in the world, even I was being called a "hezi"!!! :dunno:

And of course, there was the whole issue of "helplessness and hopelessness" which I also disagreed with and still do as they tend to be non-constructive emotions. This has always been the main agenda of IR supporters, to create that atmosphere and IMHO the atmosphere at ISP (being polar) has always been playing right into their hands. One would expect the "more intelligent group" to be working toward unity on a grander scale, not the likes of REZA and Sarjookhe.

Of course, it didn't take me too long to finally figure out what was going on there afte ryou left, compliments of people like Rasoul, IZ, FP and I did try to make ammends by further exposing Sarjookhe and the gang. To this day, I still disagree with people simply ignoring these trolling types and I think those who have the time and energy should not refrain from exposing them putting them in their place.

I want to apologize again for my role in any past kodoorat whatsoever. Until you joined this site, I felt VERY bad and felt VERY guilty about the timing of your ISP departure which was soon after our argument. And I even conveyed my feelings to Hamid before you guys met in DC in the hope that we would be able to turn a bad experience into a good one. I'm very happy that your response was a positive one and hope that we're all able to do that on a grander scale and at the national level - understanding that our differences are very minor compared to the goals, values and aspirations that we share. :drinking47:

Behrou

As i mentioned in the past, you didn't have to go to this extent to explain the situation. I understood the issue and I'm not holding any grudges about it.
My departure from ISP had nothing to do with your arguments and debates nor the parasites centralized in General's persona were a factor .
It was the fact that I realized I was no longer welcome in that site, I was heading in the direction of a major crash with a certain individual , and the fact that I'm too old for this bache bazi ha. It was better for me as well as ISP.
I respect ISP site and service that provides for the community and I keep it separate from the individuals and their ego trips.

Behrou

As i mentioned in the past, you didn't have to go to this extent to explain the situation. I understood the issue and I'm not holding any grudges about it.
My departure from ISP had nothing to do with your arguments and debates nor the parasites centralized in General's persona were a factor .
It was the fact that I realized I was no longer welcome in that site, I was heading in the direction of a major crash with a certain individual , and the fact that I'm too old for this bache bazi ha. It was better for me as well as ISP.
I respect ISP site and service that provides for the community and I keep it separate from the individuals and their ego trips.

Good to hear that Aram jaan. Always good to make sure though. Would have preferred to do it over a drink (i.e. the night before "the hang-over ;)), but you guys are taking too long to plan this nxt get-together! :whistle:

The plot thickens:

اقامت مخفیانه و یک هفته ای رهبر
در رامسر برای معاینات پزشکی


یک وبلاگ خبری- تفسیری بنام "سهرابستان" که ظاهرا پس از کودتای 22 خرداد راه اندازی شده، اطلاعات تازه ای را پیرامون بیماری و غیبت یک هفته ای علی خامنه ای رهبر جمهوری اسلامی منتشر کرد. این وبلاگ فاش ساخت:

رهبر به مدت یکهفته مخفیانه در "رامسر" بسر برد تا تیم پزشکان خارجی، وی را چکاپ کنند. این اقدام قبلا نیز چندین بار در سالهای گذشته انجام شده است. خواست تیم پزشک این است که در خلال این یک هفته ای که آنها مشغول چکاپ هستند وی کاملاً از مسئولیت های خود جدا شده و هیچگونه ملاقات و دریافت اخباری نداشته و در آرامش و استراحت کامل باشد تا بتوانند از آزمایشات و معاینات خود نتیجه دقیقی گرفته و راهکارهای حفظ سلامتی وی را بدرستی تشخیص دهند.

That may explain the road closures on Friday. I know there's a private and quiet airport in Ramsar. If he was transported there by air, what would be the closes airbase to Jamaran, considering that he would be flown there in a helicopter and most likely not over populated areas? Alternatively, could they have used one of those two roads as a lanfing strip for a small business/regional jet? Rasoul jaan?

.. but you guys are taking too long to plan this nxt get-together! :whistle:

Dude, are you serious?:help: How can we plan something like that in such a short time.... :UniKia: for us 2nd week of April (spring break) looks good. :drinking47:

Dude, are you serious?:help: How can we plan something like that in such a short time.... :UniKia: for us 2nd week of April (spring break) looks good. :drinking47:

Since Mr. G asked the family guys to agree on the time, I guess I should chime in. Hamid jan, can you be more specific as to what week is the second week of April? Spring break differs from state to state and county to county. Do you mean April 4-10 or 11 to 17? Hopefully it is the latter, since my daughter's birthday is April 5.

LOL. Yeah, we don't even call it Spring break up here and quite rightly so, because our "March Break" (for schools) is before spring and "Reading Week" (for universities) is in February!!! April 2nd is our Easter Weekend and would have worked out great, but considering the B-day issue, we're good with the 10th/11th-14th. We're doing a weekend thing again, right?!

BTW, I'm going to open a specific thread for this in the Genetic forum, I mean Generic Forum ;). I think it's a little unlucky to discuss vacation plans under someone's potential abituary, no matter how much of an a-hole he is! ;)