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Motori 01-24-2010, 06:54 PM Iranian Corner is pleased to welcome the return of the racing world giant Mercedes Benz to F1 world after 55 years of absence.
Although Benz never left the motor racing but after 1955 disastrous crash in Le’ Mans decided to discontinue providing “Official Factory Team” to any form of racing around the world.
During 1955 24 hours of Le’Mans car #20 a Mercedes Benz 300 SLR driven by Levegh collided with the back side of the Jaguar D-type driven by Hawthorn who apparently had decided to suddenly slow down and enter pit lane.
Mercedes SLR made contact with another car and disintegrated in large pieces all aflame, engine, axles, body parts all flew over the safety guards and slammed into the crowd killing 88 and injuring more than 100 spectators.
Levegh also cut free from his seat, flew in the air and landed on his head fatally crushing his skull.
It was and still is the most disastrous motor racing accident in the history. The grave level of negative publicity made Benz to withdraw from all form of motor racing all together until 2010.
Benz always maintained its fair share of involvement in motor sport by supplying formidable engines and engineering/construction knowhow to F1, Le Mans, World Rally. Indycars and various sport cars challenges but never as Factory Team.
Dec 2009 Benz officially announced her return to 2010 F1 world by taking over BrawnGP team (the team belonged to Benz anyway) with Brando’s hero Michael Schumacher on the helm of #4 (? See below) and Nicho Rosberg piloting #3.
As always Mercedes F1 cars will carry the official Benz color silver (aka silver bullet) with black as 2nd tone.
http://media.paddocktalk.com/assets/albums/21_2010-mercedes-livery.jpg
According to the news outlets Schummy is asking to exchange cars #s with Nicho claiming he has won all his 7 world championship driving cars with odd #s and even # 4 might change his luck.
Video of Levegh's Benz 300 SLR crash in 1955 24 hours of Le'Mans:
YouTube- Worst Crash Ever - 24 Hours of Le Mans - 1955 (HD)
Motori 01-24-2010, 07:27 PM 2010 Season F1 Teams and drivers:
McLaren-Mercedes:
1. Jenson Button
2. Lewis Hamilton
Mercedes Grand Prix
3. Nicho Rosberg
4. Michael Schumacher
Red Bull Racing-Renault
5. Sebastian Vettel
6. Mark Webber
Scuderia Ferrari (not Brando's favorite team any more, he is a Benz guy now)
7. Felipe Massa
8. Fernando Alonso
Williams-Cosworth
9. Rubens Barrichello
10. Nico Hülkenberg
Renault F1 Team
11. Robert Kubica
12. TBA
Force India F1 Team-Mercedes
14. Adrian Sutil
15. Vitantonio Liuzzi
Scuderia Toro Rosso-Ferrari
16. Sebastien Buemi
17. Jaime Alguersuari
Lotus
18- Jarno Trulli (can't believe he still has a job)
19- Heikki Kovalainen
Campos-Cosworth
20. TBA
21. Bruno Senna
US F1-Cosworth (don't know if this team will make it to the 1st race they are way behind schedule, even though FIA has dedicated #s for their cars still not officially listed as competing team)
22. TBA
23. TBA
Virgin Racing-Cosworth
24. Timo Glock
25. Lucas di Grassi
Sauber-BMW
Kamui Kobayashi
Pedro de la Rosa
brando 01-25-2010, 09:31 PM Iranian Corner is pleased to welcome the return of the racing world giant Mercedes Benz to F1 world after 55 years of absence.
Although Benz never left the motor racing but after 1955 disastrous crash in Le’ Mans decided to discontinue providing “Official Factory Team” to any form of racing around the world.
During 1955 24 hours of Le’Mans car #20 a Mercedes Benz 300 SLR driven by Levegh collided with the back side of the Jaguar D-type driven by Hawthorn who apparently had decided to suddenly slow down and enter pit lane.
Mercedes SLR made contact with another car and disintegrated in large pieces all aflame, engine, axles, body parts all flew over the safety guards and slammed into the crowd killing 88 and injuring more than 100 spectators.
Levegh also cut free from his seat, flew in the air and landed on his head fatally crushing his skull.
It was and still is the most disastrous motor racing accident in the history. The grave level of negative publicity made Benz to withdraw from all form of motor racing all together until 2010.
Video of Levegh's Benz 300 SLR crash in 1955 24 hours of Le'Mans:
YouTube- Worst Crash Ever - 24 Hours of Le Mans - 1955 (HD) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFoaFRG1rqo)
WOW. thanx alot for the info about 1955 crash motori jan. I had no ide that was happend. Jes killing 88, injuring more then 100, no wonder Benz left the racing.
However I searched the tube and found a longer video of the accident:
YouTube- 1955 Le Mans Cras
brando 01-25-2010, 09:41 PM Dec 2009 Benz officially announced her return to 2010 F1 world by taking over BrawnGP team (the team belonged to Benz anyway) with Brando’s hero Michael Schumacher on the helm of #4 (? See below) and Nicho Rosberg piloting #3.
As always Mercedes F1 cars will carry the official Benz color silver (aka silver bullet) with black as 2nd tone.
http://media.paddocktalk.com/assets/albums/21_2010-mercedes-livery.jpg
According to the news outlets Schummy is asking to exchange cars #s with Nicho claiming he has won all his 7 world championship driving cars with odd #s and even # 4 might change his luck.
I think it maybe a part of downplaying shummys role in F1.
This is just in the begining and if he does well, we all know, Shummy will be unstopable, and all his demands will be fullfield.
So Rosberg better enjoy his seat.
On the other hand, German Rosberg, should have maners and say:
"Agha shummy befarmayin, na be khoda aslan nemisheh. aakhe bozorgi goftan, koochiki goftan.
Shoma bozorgtarid, rish sefid kardid. mashin ghermez male shoma, zard male man" :chekerim:
But I guess germans don't have our taarof maners.
brando 01-25-2010, 10:32 PM 2010 Season F1 Teams and drivers:
McLaren-Mercedes:
1. Jenson Button
2. Lewis Hamilton
I think Button is an Ass. leaving brown was stupid. he will achieve NOTHING this season.
Hamilton I guess broke up with that foxy lady. Good for him. Concentrate kid!
Mercedes Grand Prix
3. Nicho Rosberg
4. Michael Schumacher
The 2nd seat and the yellow car may look disrespectable, vali baare bozorgiro az dooshe shummy var midareh.
Who knows his comeback will be any good?
What if he does a "Fisi @ Ferrari trick", ending behind everyone like fisichela did?
Then better have the 2nd (yellow) car and let Rosberg have the 1st (red) car.
But if he keeps it "shummy cool" ,next year the only "red" Rosberg sees will be his mamas pu***.
Red Bull Racing-Renault
5. Sebastian Vettel
6. Mark Webber
Finaly they swiched #. thanx
Scuderia Ferrari (not Brando's favorite team any more, he is a Benz guy now)
7. Felipe Massa
8. Fernando Alonso
Even if the world turns to hell, this will still be me, this time with Sinior F.A on board ;)
http://www.ferrari.com/Italian/Scuderia/Formula_1/ScuderiaFerrari/Piloti/Pages/Drivers.aspx
This time he is not Alfonso, but he is Sinior Alonso, 2 time world champion, ey Ghadamesh roye kaleye kachale maaaaaaaaaaaaan :D
Williams-Cosworth
9. Rubens Barrichello
10. Nico Hülkenberg
Jees Ruben goes on and on just like a disel engine mercedes, rounding 1 mill km and still spinning ;)
How good is Hulk any way? I don't know him.
Renault F1 Team
11. Robert Kubica
12. TBA
Poor Robert last year he gained 0. lets hope Renoult help him out.
Force India F1 Team-Mercedes
14. Adrian Sutil
15. Vitantonio Liuzzi
#15 is great. Liuizzi the master of engine stop and crashes.
I don't think I can count how many races he has withdrawn and how many races he has costed SC's which changed the race complitly.
He is a joker. I welcome him back, for his "actions".
They can be usefull from time to time, specialy when your team is doing shit.
Scuderia Toro Rosso-Ferrari
16. Sebastien Buemi
17. Jaime Alguersuari
No comment
Lotus
18- Jarno Trulli (can't believe he still has a job)
19- Heikki Kovalainen
Hmm. Intresting due.
Who knows maybe Jarno pulls a rabitt out of that Lotus hat, but they should not expect any "balls" from Heikki.
Campos-Cosworth
20. TBA
21. Bruno Senna
Welcome to Mr Senna 2. I like the fact that 1st seat is still open for a bigger driver to arrive.
US F1-Cosworth (don't know if this team will make it to the 1st race they are way behind schedule,
even though FIA has dedicated #s for their cars still not officially listed as competing team)
22. TBA
23. TBA
Hala begin be U.S. haal nemidan. :UniKia:
Virgin Racing-Cosworth
24. Timo Glock
25. Lucas di Grassi
WOW. what a team. Both GP2 freaking rivales. This is gonna be good.
Sauber-BMW
Kamui Kobayashi
Pedro de la Rosa
I like Kobayashi. He is a lot better then Nakajima. He proved it by owning Naka in some late season races last year.
Finaly a seat for Pedro from begining of a season. Good for good old Pedro.
Behrooz_C 01-26-2010, 10:33 AM Well well well, look who's back! Michael Schumacher.
It's like a shot in the arm for F1, not that it needed one, but I think this season will be one of the most anticipated F1 seasons in years. MacLaren now have to British drivers and if you ask me it won't all go smoothly between the pair of drivers and if I were JB i'd never have made this move. LH can expose him big time and JB will be under pressure to show he is better than his teammate, specially as he is the regining world champion. All the pressure is on JB and it won't be easy.
Alonso and Massa and Ferrari also has has the potential for fireworks.
Motori 01-26-2010, 08:25 PM I think Button is an Ass. leaving brown was stupid. he will achieve NOTHING this season.
Hamilton I guess broke up with that foxy lady. Good for him. Concentrate kid!
ALL British Tean again, they will be serious contenders to the Crown that includes WCC.
The 2nd seat and the yellow car may look disrespectable, vali baare bozorgiro az dooshe shummy var midareh.
Who knows his comeback will be any good?
What if he does a "Fisi @ Ferrari trick", ending behind everyone like fisichela did?
Then better have the 2nd (yellow) car and let Rosberg have the 1st (red) car.
But if he keeps it "shummy cool" ,next year the only "red" Rosberg sees will be his mamas pu***.
ALL German Team, an arch rival to MCs.
Combination of Scummy and Ross Brawn will dominate the whole team, Nico will have the hardest time of his life and in some cases totally irrelevant.
This Team will be the 1 I'll cheer them all the way. So Mr, Marlon get ready to watch all red Scuderias on the rear view mirrors of my beloved Benzs.:D
Finaly they swiched #. thanx
They had to, Vettel finished wat ahead of Weber both in WDC & WCC
7. Felipe Massa
8. Fernando Alonso
Even if the world turns to hell, this will still be me, this time with Sinior F.A on board ;)
http://www.ferrari.com/Italian/Scuderia/Formula_1/ScuderiaFerrari/Piloti/Pages/Drivers.aspx
This time he is not Alfonso, but he is Sinior Alonso, 2 time world champion, ey Ghadamesh roye kaleye kachale maaaaaaaaaaaaan :D
So you are giving up on Schummy and collaborating with Fernando, ha? You change side so quick, I'm glad you are not the head of Political Party I belong.:D:D
Just kidding "injAneb" always had a soft spot for Ferrari and I'm certain the battel between Birts, Germans and Italians will be the scene to watch.
Jees Ruben goes on and on just like a disel engine mercedes, rounding 1 mill km and still spinning ;)
How good is Hulk any way? I don't know him.
He is not older than Richardo Patrezzi when he finally quit.
Hulk has a brilliant racing back ground, he is the reigning champion of GP2 also hold championship both in Euro 3 series as well as A1 GP which very close to F1.
Poor Robert last year he gained 0. lets hope Renoult help him out.
For all the hype every 1 made before his Grand Entrance to F1 he has not done jack yet. Thinking about his Montreal crash still sends chill to my spine.
#15 is great. Liuizzi the master of engine stop and crashes.
I don't think I can count how many races he has withdrawn and how many races he has costed SC's which changed the race complitly.
He is a joker. I welcome him back, for his "actions".
They can be usefull from time to time, specialy when your team is doing shit.
Stuil is not that bad either, poor guy is just under rated, he could do lot better if he was in a team with a little more juice.
Scuderia Toro Rosso-Ferrari
16. Sebastien Buemi
17. Jaime Alguersuari
No comment
Alhuersuari is the one with the funniest hair do, let see if he will buy a hairdryer and brush for 2010.
Hmm. Intresting due.
Who knows maybe Jarno pulls a rabitt out of that Lotus hat, but they should not expect any "balls" from Heikki.
I could swear he would be goner for this season, it is just mind buggling to see Kimi without a ride and Jarno on the helm of another car. I guess price tag really matters.;)
Welcome to Mr Senna 2. I like the fact that 1st seat is still open for a bigger driver to arrive.
Wow Man!! Hope it will not be another Piquet jr. again. The name Senna is etched in hearts and minds of all F1 enthusiast all over the world. I sicerely hope he will be able to carry the torch, at least close enough, it will be the heaviest weight on the shoulders of any rookie driver.
Hala begin be U.S. haal nemidan. :UniKia:
Team belongs to Peter Windsor, he is the F1 commentator for SpeedTV. I really wish them success not because I care about them, just because if they do halfway decent then USGP might return to this side of the pond.
I might go to Montreal this year.
WOW. what a team. Both GP2 freaking rivales. This is gonna be good.
Yah I think they finished 1 & 2 in 2007 GT2 series. But F1 is a monster, it is able to teach lessons no 1 could forget. Ask Michael Anderetti he has stories to tell.:D
I like Kobayashi. He is a lot better then Nakajima. He proved it by owning Naka in some late season races last year.
Finaly a seat for Pedro from begining of a season. Good for good old Pedro.
Pedro has always been happier in a Test Car. Best of luck to him but I'll be BZ taking care of the 3 or 4 front runners.;)
Motori 01-26-2010, 09:47 PM Well well well, look who's back! Michael Schumacher.
It's like a shot in the arm for F1, not that it needed one, but I think this season will be one of the most anticipated F1 seasons in years. MacLaren now have to British drivers and if you ask me it won't all go smoothly between the pair of drivers and if I were JB i'd never have made this move. LH can expose him big time and JB will be under pressure to show he is better than his teammate, specially as he is the regining world champion. All the pressure is on JB and it won't be easy.
Alonso and Massa and Ferrari also has has the potential for fireworks.
Behrooz jAn,
Many say the JB didn't want to team up with Schummy that was the reason he walked into the McLaren Technology Center in UK.
I disagree with that assertion, there was absolutely no possibility of JB and MS teaming up in Brawn because Rosberg's contarct was signed on July (may be Aug) of 2009, so either it could be JB or MS, not both.
I believed all along JB wanted to drive for Mcs (British thing as you know;) ) that is why he took a paycut and decided to team up with LH, Brawn claimed he breached the contract and canceled it and JB knew it very well they will do so.
LH and JB are both WDCs and as you mentioned fireworks coming out of rivalry will be nothing but good racing brimming with excitement.
Oh BTW: 2010 will be one of those rare seasons that 4 world champions will be contending each other in the race courses.
Cant wait till March 12.
Behrooz_C 01-27-2010, 10:23 AM Rasoul jan JB had to leave Merc because the new bosses wanted an all German line up. They may not have said it in as many words but they made it clear in other ways.
JB was not getting paid anywhere near the money that a F1 contender gets paid and Merc weren't going to improve on that. So JB wanted the going rate for a WDC. At first the MacLaren deal seems good for him and a dream. But I am prepared to bet he will be exposed by LH who is a better driver, definitely faster.
JB had the chance of joining Williams, another British team with prestige, a few years ago but decided to stay with BAR (Honda which became Brawn). So this is his chance again. But as I say, I will be very surprised if he outperforms LH.
Motori 01-27-2010, 06:24 PM Rasoul jan JB had to leave Merc because the new bosses wanted an all German line up. They may not have said it in as many words but they made it clear in other ways.
JB was not getting paid anywhere near the money that a F1 contender gets paid and Merc weren't going to improve on that. So JB wanted the going rate for a WDC. At first the MacLaren deal seems good for him and a dream. But I am prepared to bet he will be exposed by LH who is a better driver, definitely faster.
JB had the chance of joining Williams, another British team with prestige, a few years ago but decided to stay with BAR (Honda which became Brawn). So this is his chance again. But as I say, I will be very surprised if he outperforms LH.
Behrooz jAn,
Upon return to UK (I don't know from where) JB didn't even go to his residence, he went straight to McLaren Technology Center from airport. I'm not saying Ross Brawn is a saint, they all play the vicious politics of F1 but the amount of money BGP was ready to pay JB for 2010 was lot more than Mc but he decided to deal with an all Brit Team than putting up with Ross Brawn and Nico. JB knew that Ross is negotiating with MS but by walking to MCs he facilitated the deal and provided a compelling reason for Ross to cancel the contract.
Behrooz_C 01-28-2010, 09:23 AM Behrooz jAn,
Upon return to UK (I don't know from where) JB didn't even go to his residence, he went straight to McLaren Technology Center from airport. I'm not saying Ross Brawn is a saint, they all play the vicious politics of F1 but the amount of money BGP was ready to pay JB for 2010 was lot more than Mc but he decided to deal with an all Brit Team than putting up with Ross Brawn and Nico. JB knew that Ross is negotiating with MS but by walking to MCs he facilitated the deal and provided a compelling reason for Ross to cancel the contract.
Well, all I can say is that the story was reported differently here. Once Merc take over started, many decisions were taken out of RB's hands including contracts and the money side of things and it became apparent that the new owners wanted JB out. Merc were not prepared to pay JB more.
Having said that, I am sure MacLaren has a different appeal to most drivers, specially the British ones. So I am sure that played a significant role in all this.
brando 03-14-2010, 02:37 PM Nice race so far.
Here is a list of drivers and their presentation before Bahrian
Motori 03-14-2010, 07:09 PM Sorry guys I got little bz this weekend and couldn't come up with the GP of Bahrain report. I will take care of the rest of the season.
Marlon jAn, Close to end of the race I was thinking about you, both your heros The Magician and Massa finished 1 & 2.
Such a finish at the end of season opening race will send a clear massage to other teams and FIA that in 2010 Ferrari means serious business again.
I watch the Friday practice thinking "oh man! it is 2009 all over again and Ferrari is in trouble" and race day they come in and finish 1 & 2.
I also was amazed with Shummy's performance, 41 years old, has been away from the sport for 3 years and still returns and goes through the whole race finishing in top 5.
I didn't think he was pushing at all, He was very comfortable just trying to get his senses and reflections back while saving the car for the future races.
Motori 03-14-2010, 07:31 PM Interesting video of Kimi Raikkonen driving a Rally car in Mexico. While enjoying the music wait to see the "Role Over" at the end.
YouTube- Kimi Räikkönen at the Rally Mexico 2010
Bi-Honar 03-14-2010, 09:25 PM So, there's no North American leg this year, is that right Mr. A? :(
Motori 03-14-2010, 10:16 PM So, there's no North American leg this year, is that right Mr. A? :(
Mr, G.
The F1 race in US came to end in 2008 when FIA and Tony George (owner of the Indianapolis Speedway) could not come up with an agreement for extension.
The track lay out was not really challenging and quite lame anyway, fans just went there to see, hear the cars and drivers.
But you guys still have the Canadian Grand Prix in Montreal though (lucky ba$tards) which I might attend this year.
My reference to USF1 goes as follow:
Peter Windsor who was SpeedTV's F1 reporter decided to put a F1 team together with a big backing from Chad Hurley (former owner of You Tube) located in North Carolina and called it Team USF1 with possible American drivers (Marco Anderetti?).
Through their website and various other motor racing related press and sites they have been giving us all kind of progress report, promised they will make it to the Bahrain grid, they even posted a composite pic. of the perceived chassis and last minute they said they will not make it to first 3 race, then said they won't make it to 2010 season. They still claim that project is ongoing but I personally believe project is or will be scraped soon.
Bi-Honar 03-14-2010, 11:52 PM Rasoul jaan, I thought the Montreal one was also cancelled a couple of years back. Did they reverse the decision? If they have and you are thinking about coming up, we'll definitely meet you there. The Grand Prix weekends in Montreal have always been lots of fun :)
Behrooz_C 03-15-2010, 10:47 AM Behrou ja,, the Canadian GP is definitely ON this year. I don't think it was ever scrapped.
I had forgotten Kimi has left F1 until I sat down to watch qualifying on Saturday.
Poor Vettel, he was leading for so long, only be hindered by a mechanical problem with the exhaust. They struggled with reliability all last season and it seems they haven't been able to correct that. If they do, they are the main challengers to Ferrari. MacLarens are some way off at the moment and as I had predicted, JB will be in the shaddows of the more talented LH.
On a general note, I don't like the new regulations regarding pit stops. The no refueling rule has taken a bit of excitement out of the sport. I know we complained that so many races were decided by pit strategy but for me that was part of the fascination. Yesterday's race was just borin. I hope the season gets better.
brando 03-15-2010, 01:37 PM Sorry guys I got little bz this weekend and couldn't come up with the GP of Bahrain report. I will take care of the rest of the season.
Marlon jAn, Close to end of the race I was thinking about you, both your heros The Magician and Massa finished 1 & 2.
Such a finish at the end of season opening race will send a clear massage to other teams and FIA that in 2010 Ferrari means serious business again.
I watch the Friday practice thinking "oh man! it is 2009 all over again and Ferrari is in trouble" and race day they come in and finish 1 & 2.
I also was amazed with Shummy's performance, 41 years old, has been away from the sport for 3 years and still returns and goes through the whole race finishing in top 5.
I didn't think he was pushing at all, He was very comfortable just trying to get his senses and reflections back while saving the car for the future races.
Rasoul jan regurd Ferrari 1 & 2 , one word "Power demonstration" :)
Butstill with a big help by Vettel bc we know otherways niether Alonso nor Massa could catch up with him.
Motori jan the comentator yuesterday said Renoult has devaloped an engine which uses less fuell????
If that is the case, it means they can be lighter at each single race, which again means Red Bull will win the tittle this year.
Regurd Schummy: I agree, he hasn't showen the half of it yet, but his car will also be a major factor for his comeback succes.
brando 03-15-2010, 01:39 PM Interesting video of Kimi Raikkonen driving a Rally car in Mexico. While enjoying the music wait to see the "Role Over" at the end.
YouTube- Kimi Räikkönen at the Rally Mexico 2010 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Sfd6jQUgJA)
wow thanx for video dude.
brando 03-15-2010, 01:43 PM Poor Vettel, he was leading for so long, only be hindered by a mechanical problem with the exhaust. They struggled with reliability all last season and it seems they haven't been able to correct that. If they do, they are the main challengers to Ferrari.
Behrouz jan Redbull WILL BE the main challenger, you are totaly right.
MacLarens are some way off at the moment and as I had predicted, JB will be in the shaddows of the more talented LH.
Baba in JB 1 sal oomad WC ro bord oonam faghat baabate machine khoob, hala dobareh bargasht be forme ghablish:
regular mid-table fighter :(
On a general note, I don't like the new regulations regarding pit stops. The no refueling rule has taken a bit of excitement out of the sport. I know we complained that so many races were decided by pit strategy but for me that was part of the fascination. Yesterday's race was just borin. I hope the season gets better.
I couldn't agree more!!!
Motori 03-15-2010, 10:21 PM Rasoul jaan, I thought the Montreal one was also cancelled a couple of years back. Did they reverse the decision? If they have and you are thinking about coming up, we'll definitely meet you there. The Grand Prix weekends in Montreal have always been lots of fun :)
Mr, G.
It was only for 2009 when FIA had to make an executive decision to pick 1 between Canada or abu-dhabi and guess the overwhelming gush of money from camel pumpers over took Canada and race was moved to desert.
Canadian Grand Prix started on 1967 and had been going on for 30 consecutive years, the race elevated its status to be among the most spectacular with highest # of attendees when the race was moved to Circuit de Notre Dame and Canadian Gilles Villeneuv won the inaugural race the popularity of the race and the circuit was quadrupled ever since.
Unfortunately following years (I don't remember when) Gilles lost his life in fatal crash and in honor of great Canadian F1 driver the track was named "Circuit de Gilles Villeneuv". Gilles son Jacques Villeneuv is also an F1 world champion.
In my opinion combination of that Island in which the track (very challenging and fast btw) is located, the natural beauty of the surrounding, the Montreal night life, the enthusiasm of Canadian race fan embracing the whole event makes the Canadian GP the most interesting race among all GPs.
BTW: The new contract with FIA is for 5 years (2010-2014) but I promise you it will be extended as long as FIA manage to survive.
Circuit de Gilles Villeneuv:
http://www.statsf1.com/photos/circuits/montreal.jpg
Bi-Honar 03-26-2010, 03:21 PM So, are you coming up Mr. A? We've gotta start planning if you are. It's only 3 months away if I'm not mistaken.
Motori 03-26-2010, 04:33 PM Mr, G.
I can't make any plans till this new dilemma fades away!!:help::help:
Bi-Honar 03-26-2010, 05:07 PM Mr. A, dilemmas have a way of fading away on their own, when you start ignoring them! ;) How are things going BTW? I have another friend (a girl) who is now going through the exact same thing up here and we were all together than night (i.e. it very well could have been me)! :(
Motori 03-28-2010, 04:31 PM Mr. A, dilemmas have a way of fading away on their own, when you start ignoring them! ;) How are things going BTW? I have another friend (a girl) who is now going through the exact same thing up here and we were all together than night (i.e. it very well could have been me)! :(
Appreciate the kind words and moral support.
Luckily (may be?) there is a silver lining in the horizon, I'll let you know as thing transpires.
Bi-Honar 03-28-2010, 04:51 PM Please don't worry Rasoul jaan. I'm 100% sure, based on our last conversation, that everything will work out. You just focus on your Montreal plans! ;)
Behrooz_C 07-26-2010, 09:40 AM Way to go Ferrari! Nice attempt at disguising what was clearly team orders to get Alonso ahead of poor Massa. But unfortunaltey for you, the average F1 fan is far more intelligent than to believe your cock and bull story.
On top of that, fancy leaving the order to Rob Smedley, the engineer, instead of the team boss having the guts to do it himself.
The ball now is in Jean Todt's court now. Will he punish his former employer? Don't bank on it ;)
Motori 07-29-2010, 03:39 AM Way to go Ferrari! Nice attempt at disguising what was clearly team orders to get Alonso ahead of poor Massa. But unfortunaltey for you, the average F1 fan is far more intelligent than to believe your cock and bull story.
On top of that, fancy leaving the order to Rob Smedley, the engineer, instead of the team boss having the guts to do it himself.
The ball now is in Jean Todt's court now. Will he punish his former employer? Don't bank on it ;)
Behrooz jAn,
I hate team order and as you it is not allowed except in situation like in Germany.
Freddy was definitely faster than Massa, and even if he had won the race he still would be far away from clinching DWC, but Alfonso is lot closer with plenty of possibilities.
BTW: I was thinking about you the other day while I watching British F1.
If you could travel to Barcelona a w22k ealier you could see the Spanish GP, and while you were there you missed the Silver Stone. You missed both.:D
Behrooz_C 07-29-2010, 09:37 AM Rasoul jan, I know! These days decisions have to be made with the wife who doesn't like sports very much. I could never justify arranging holidays around sports events :(
Regarding the race incident, I guess that's the end of it and not much more will come from it now. Ferrari did it in a clever way. But I am sure all teams do it despite the ban, they have codes they use on the radio to tell their drivers what to do. Team orders are still very much alive. Come to think of it, the ban was a stupid idea as it's impossible to police.
I guess you could say that if the drivers championship doesn't matter they should scrap it and just fight for constructors championship. This won't happen either. But I was just disappointed as I like Massa and can't stand the arrogant prick that is Alonso.
Motori 08-02-2010, 06:14 PM Rasoul jan, I know! These days decisions have to be made with the wife who doesn't like sports very much. I could never justify arranging holidays around sports events :(
Regarding the race incident, I guess that's the end of it and not much more will come from it now. Ferrari did it in a clever way. But I am sure all teams do it despite the ban, they have codes they use on the radio to tell their drivers what to do. Team orders are still very much alive. Come to think of it, the ban was a stupid idea as it's impossible to police.
I guess you could say that if the drivers championship doesn't matter they should scrap it and just fight for constructors championship. This won't happen either. But I was just disappointed as I like Massa and can't stand the arrogant prick that is Alonso.
Behrooz jAn,
Team order is not banned on the track when it is obvious that one team member is faster than the one up front. Just like the situation in Germany.
Lap after lap Alfonso proved to be faster than Massa who had no chance of winning the race.
DWC also matters, before the order for Massa to step aside and let Alfonso to pass, Massa had 77 and Alonso had 98 WDC points, now (after Hungary) they are 97 and 141 respectively. Big leap fwd if you ask me.
Just look at the end result, Ferrari finished 1 & 2 , divers captured total of 43 wdc points, team got 43 CWC points the highest in this season by any team in single race, Bahrain was also 43 points but it was done by Ferrari as well.
IMHO it was a good strategy and it paid off.
Behrooz_C 08-05-2010, 09:51 AM I know Rasoul jan, team orders will remain part of F1 forever and a day. What I am saying is it would be better if FIA also recognise this and lift this ridiculous ban.
I heard Button say that if that were him and he was told to let Hamilton pass by he'd take him out. That's bullshit talk to me. I understand he wouldn't like to do it now when both have a chance of DWC, but let's say there are two races to go and Hamilton is in the race to win the championship and Button has no chance. I am sure Button will give way to his teammate.
Anyway, how about the Schumacher manouver on Barrichelo in Hungry? Incredible. We could be sitting here talking about a tragedy now with Rubens the victim:
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Motori 08-05-2010, 06:24 PM G.D FIA strikes again. The video was removed from U.T because they objected to it.
F1 could be the greatest sport of all time if they could eradicate the politics out of it.
Motori 08-05-2010, 06:30 PM I went back and searched for (F1 Hungary 2010) and saw plenty of clips of Rubin overtaking Schummy and every single 1 of 2010 Hungary f1 clips was removed because of F1 management.
May be I need to NASCAR.:D
Behrooz_C 08-05-2010, 07:07 PM Here you go:
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Behrooz_C 11-13-2010, 09:53 AM Right, last GP of the season and 4 drivers still in with a chance.
I don't care who becomes champion as long as it's not that dickhead Alonso.
Behrooz_C 11-14-2010, 04:38 PM Congratulations Sebastian Vettel. Driver's world Champion 2010.
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Motori 11-17-2010, 07:08 PM Indeed!!
Congratulation Sabi., you truly serve the title and many more.
About 4 years ago Dr. Strangemoosh predicted and picked Heikki Kovalainin as the future shining star of the F1, I picked Vettel.:Oldguy:
I've been following Vettel ever since his GP2 days and then he ended up Test Driving for (back then) BMW, it was clear as glass that the Boy was born to sit ib the cockpit of F1 car and perform.
He is also one helava guy in the pits and real life, always smiling, never carry the grudge about on track incidents into the garage area or press conference and so far he has shown some sort of immunity toward and oblivious to F1 politics. Oh! Never mind he is his own Manager and never had one.
Also It was entertaining to see Sutil finishing 14th ahead of seasoned F1 veterans like Trulli and Heidfield, beating Kovalainin for WDC position was also a bonus.
Behrooz_C 11-18-2010, 08:54 AM I have to admit that I favoured Webber, but have to say that taking the seaon overall into account that Vettel deserved it. He had more pole positions and won more races. The incident n Turkey aside, he showed lots of maturity for his young age.
But how Webber totally underperformed in the last weekend (both qualifying and race itself) just beats me!
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